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BabyGangsta
09-07-2005, 01:07 PM
Please write to:

Fire Chief David L. Washington
500 N. Casino Center Boulevard
Las Vegas, NV 89101
Phone: (702)229-0323

IMO, it is PATHETIC and DISGUSTING how, as a CAPTAIN of a fire unit, Eric spoke publically against not wanting to help black women when their life is in danger and his other racist comments ESPECIALLY WHEN THE FIRE CHIEF OF LAS VEGAS HIMSELF IS BLACK. I know of 5-6 people who are writing letters of complaints about his behavior on the show to his employer and a couple others who tried calling the fire chief directly.

I'd encourage you all to do the same...

Ashlaefedorov
09-07-2005, 01:12 PM
Thanks I will tell on racist Eric. HE is just like his mistress Ivette. They both a racist.

shadyoutkast
09-07-2005, 01:32 PM
That's a little harsh. Eric could potentially get fired and it could affect his family.

And then, we will be no better than how we percieve Eric.

Kay
09-07-2005, 03:07 PM
As much as I don't like Eric, I agree with shadyoutkast. Eric doesn't need this.
If the fire chief is black, then I'm sure he'll handle the situation without anyone's help.

Jenn
09-07-2005, 03:51 PM
I'm not THAT involved with the characters of this show to put that much effort into getting revenge for a character I did like.

I think it's safe to say that Eric did not get the accolade he was hoping for in his portrayal of a 'fireman with a family and morals and integrity' and that should be enough.

blueeyesdebbie22
09-07-2005, 03:59 PM
LOL I really don't think they give a hoot some B.B. 6 fans are mad at Eric. I have better things to do with my time, then to write letters about someone I never even think about LOL

Kelly
09-07-2005, 04:16 PM
I can't stand him but that is going a little to far. After the finale we will never have to see or hear of him again!!

canadaloveskaysar
09-08-2005, 11:25 AM
wow I think its alittle harsh myself...Im sure that anybody and everybody that knows Eric watched him on the show and whill know who he acted. why should anyone take someone elses life in thier own hands...who cares look after your own life.

Ginamarie
09-08-2005, 11:30 AM
I agree with the majority. The information is there, Eric can't deny what he said and if his Chief wants to do something about it, that is his right to do.

As wrong as his statements may have been, I don't think we have the right to step in and play with his career and hurt his family like that.

It was racist to say, but who knows if its even true or if he was using his "sick" strategy to see where it got him.

I don't like him and as the other's have said, when the game is over we never have to think of him again!

Just my humble opinion...

M.A.R.Y
09-28-2005, 01:29 AM
i cant stand eric

M.A.R.Y
09-28-2005, 01:29 AM
:mad:

Elizabeth
09-28-2005, 01:34 AM
Guys, we don't have any set forum rules, but I really caution people against calling anyone "racist."

Personally, I feel being called a racist is just as bad as someone making a racist remark.

So please, if there is something he may have said or done, you're welcome to discuss it but to avoid arguing or problems, let's stay away from that word.

FranzKafka
09-28-2005, 01:38 AM
But aren't houseguests an exception? I can understand it being against another member, but commenting on events from the BB house I'm sure is different.

Wise_Diva
09-28-2005, 01:41 AM
I think you should let this go....

I think Karma & public perception will take care of Eric & Company...We shouldn't sink to there level....

dinh_dinh
09-28-2005, 01:50 AM
wow......writing a letter to Eric's boss that could get him fired? I think that would be going over board. I mean I don't like the guy but I rather have him know that majority of people just DON'T like him.
I think that might affect him more then getting him fired. JMO

JLittmann
09-28-2005, 02:43 AM
lol, I'm on it right after I figure out how to get a hold of the lawyer of the victim's family in the wrongful death suit against Summerlin hospital that Maggie was involved in, but never took responsisbility for.

mk
09-28-2005, 03:01 AM
People need to let them live their lives. There are many people out there that we don't like, but that does not mean we have to go and get them fired. Some of you are going too far. This needs to end now. We ended up winning because we were cheering for the good people in the house, thats it. Nothing else needs to be said or done.

JLittmann
09-28-2005, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by mk
People need to let them live their lives. There are many people out there that we don't like, but that does not mean we have to go and get them fired. Some of you are going too far. This needs to end now. We ended up winning because we were cheering for the good people in the house, thats it. Nothing else needs to be said or done.

teehee - but...but...that's so healthy and well-adjusted! :P

lostinks
09-28-2005, 07:46 AM
I agree with Shady and friends. Eric has to live his life as a a$$. That's punishment enough.

Maggie on the other hand, I think something needs to be done about her. She said some pretty hateful things about how she feels and treats patients. Not sure if it is being fired, but something.

loveyoukaysar
09-28-2005, 08:04 AM
What if the NH fans found Kaysars address and sent his boss a letter!? OmG! That would be awfull and just plain mean, we are not like the NH- we are people who care about others.

kynui2
09-28-2005, 08:52 AM
I would never write a letter because he could get fired. I look at it this way, you reap what you sew and he will pay his dues for his actions and we don't have to play a hand in it. I think the way he acted was wrong and he will have to live with the out come from that.

Marla
09-28-2005, 09:40 AM
I'd have to say I agree with most of you.. as much as I disliked Eric persona on the show, and as much as many of the things he did and said bothered me.. it's not up to us to "ruin" him

I am a firm believer in Karma.. I'm sure he is already suffering enough from it

Marla
09-28-2005, 09:42 AM
p.s. I don't think he would get fired anyway.. that would be grounds for wrongful dismisal would it not? If you got fired from a job for comments you made on yor own time, you could probably make a big stink about it and sue. And considering eric is now "semi-celebrity" it would make for a huge scandal. I don't think the fire department would want that kind of backlash.

(I'm a lawyer's daughter.. don't mind me)

hehe

Got_Kaysar?
09-28-2005, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by BabyGangsta
Please write to:

Fire Chief David L. Washington
500 N. Casino Center Boulevard
Las Vegas, NV 89101
Phone: (702)229-0323

IMO, it is PATHETIC and DISGUSTING how, as a CAPTAIN of a fire unit, Eric spoke publically against not wanting to help black women when their life is in danger and his other racist comments ESPECIALLY WHEN THE FIRE CHIEF OF LAS VEGAS HIMSELF IS BLACK. I know of 5-6 people who are writing letters of complaints about his behavior on the show to his employer and a couple others who tried calling the fire chief directly.

I'd encourage you all to do the same...


I think this is going a little too far, kwim?I mean sure he was not a nice person, made those comments and he is not really loved by America (and Canada ;) ) but C'mon, writing a letter to his boss??first-i dont' think they would fire him or do anything about it, second- how LAME is that?? I mean don't take it personal, but do you honestly think that it's the right thing to do. What are you goint to say? "Eric said this and that...i saw him on tv and he was not nice"??

This is just like the Marcellas thing, some of the haters really need to move on with their lifes, the show is OVER, we are here to support Kaysar and the Sov, because we like them.


FYI- I really DID not like Eric at all, he was lame and i have called him all the names from crappy to midget, but there is a limit.

mommyluvnoah
09-28-2005, 10:35 AM
I wasn't a big fan of Eric's behavior but I have no intention of doing anything that will jeopardize his livelihood or the welfare of his family. For all I know he may be wonderful at his job and may have saved the lives of many people. In my opinion the best way to handle the behavior of the NH is for me to keep supporting the S6 in whatever they choose to do. Living well is the best revenge so I am going show what type of behavior I support in a positive manner. JMHO.

Maxie
09-28-2005, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Elizabeth
Guys, we don't have any set forum rules, but I really caution people against calling anyone "racist."

Personally, I feel being called a racist is just as bad as someone making a racist remark.

So please, if there is something he may have said or done, you're welcome to discuss it but to avoid arguing or problems, let's stay away from that word.

Your kidding right? Calling someone a racist isn't the same as making a racist remark.
Oh and thank you for giving us permission to discuss it.

As for writing the fire dept that isn't my style, Karma will take care of Crappy.

sonshine
09-28-2005, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by shadyoutkast
That's a little harsh. Eric could potentially get fired and it could affect his family.

And then, we will be no better than how we percieve Eric. Shady is right here, you are stooping to his level of behavior and attitude, I am sure the firehouse watched the show as well and all will be handled in a fashionable manner..

Elizabeth
09-28-2005, 12:40 PM
Calling someone a racist isn't the same as making a racist remark.

What I'm saying is being called a "racist" by somone can be as offensive as feeling someone is being prejudicial towards you.

People are quick to label others if they hear even the slightest remark that may be slanted in a certain direction.

What went on between Kaysar and Ivette is a perfect example. Wasn't Ivette calling everyone that if they even looked at her in a way she didn't like?

People, like Ivette, come to quick conclusions based on limited information. They're often incorrect and they often come with their own set of biases based on previous experiences. So when someone does or says anything that relates to those experiences, it triggers a conditioned response.

We likely all have biases to some degree, unfortunately, but unless someone comes in wearing a white robe and a pointed cap and is looking to burn a cross in someone's lawn, I say we err on the side of caution and don't label them a racist.

Maxie
09-28-2005, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Elizabeth
Calling someone a racist isn't the same as making a racist remark.

What I'm saying is being called a "racist" by somone can be as offensive as feeling someone is being prejudicial towards you.

People are quick to label others if they hear even the slightest remark that may be slanted in a certain direction.

What went on between Kaysar and Ivette is a perfect example. Wasn't Ivette calling everyone that if they even looked at her in a way she didn't like?

People, like Ivette, come to quick conclusions based on limited information. They're often incorrect and they often come with their own set of biases based on previous experiences. So when someone does or says anything that relates to those experiences, it triggers a conditioned response.

We likely all have biases to some degree, unfortunately, but unless someone comes in wearing a white robe and a pointed cap and is looking to burn a cross in someone's lawn, I say we err on the side of caution and don't label them a racist.

*sigh* Maybe you could make up your list of rules so that we all will know what we can and can't say instead of getting all these wonderful lectures.

Elizabeth
09-28-2005, 01:00 PM
Actually I'd be more interested in hearing your perspective on it backed with supporting evidence of your position if you disagree with me.

If you believe it's okay to label someone that based on limited information about the person, I'd like to hear your justification for it.

Jenn
09-28-2005, 01:27 PM
People, like Ivette, come to quick conclusions based on limited information.



The above is the DEFINITION of racism.

From websters:

rac¬?ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Just in case you need more justification - I'll also post the definition of prejudice:

prej¬?u¬?dice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prj-ds)
n.

1. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
2. A preconceived preference or idea.
3. The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection.
4. Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.
5. Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.


Nobody is labeling Eric or Ivette as a racist based on limited information. These peeps have been observed 24/7 for weeks to months.

I can meet someone, have a 5 minute conversation with them, and if they make several derogatory remarks towards gays, african americans, hispanics, etc - I will still have limited information about that person - but I do know one thing - they are a racist. The definition of a racism is clear.

I'm with Maxie - these lectures are getting old.

If you disagree with the use of the word racism - then disagree and provide 'supporting evidence'. But you are only a moderator here. This is over the top:

Guys, we don't have any set forum rules, but I really caution people against calling anyone "racist."

Personally, I feel being called a racist is just as bad as someone making a racist remark.

So please, if there is something he may have said or done, you're welcome to discuss it but to avoid arguing or problems, let's stay away from that word.

You are not giving an opinino - you are telling us what to do. Get over yourself already

Maxie
09-28-2005, 01:33 PM
Thank you Jenn

Elizabeth I don't have to justify to you what I think about anything these constant lectures are tiresome the last time I looked this was Kaysars board. I realize that you are a moderator but that doesn't mean you can tell people what to say and do unless they are breaking rules.

tweety_kiss
09-28-2005, 01:36 PM
I agree with the majority.

I am sure his boss watched the show just like all his colleagues did. His boss probably handled the matter himself.

Also I don't believe in messing with somone's job and his wife and children are innocent people. Where children are affected becomes a very touchy and sensitive situation and if this were to happen and he lost his job, his children would be traumatized and never forget. Children do hold grudges as far as their parents go and I understand that.

I did not like him at all on the show, but when they showed him with his family that one time when they showed all the evicted HGs who went back home, he seemed like he is very close to his wife and children.

Elizabeth
09-28-2005, 01:45 PM
I can tell you, I certainly didn't like hearing Ivette calling Kaysar or Janelle or whoever else she accused of being "racist." I think she was quick to judge and incorrect. And I think it angered a lot of viewers every time that word came out of her mouth.

But you can't say, "Well, it's okay to call them (Ivette and Eric) that because they are. But it's not right to call Kaysar or Howie or Janelle or whoever that because they clearly aren't."

After hearing it come out of Ivette's mouth that many times, I hate the word.

I think it's one of those words that just makes people angry and it just perpetuates the very thing it represents. It's hurtful to those who feel they are being disrespected and just draws sharper lines between ethnicitities and class, whether they are real or perceived.

It's a word that has no positive value to anyone.

jerrij
09-28-2005, 02:54 PM
Most of the BB watchers out there know that Eric is an idiot. Everywhere he goes he will more than likely hear some remark and that is revenge enough for me.

tweety_kiss
09-28-2005, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by jerrij
Most of the BB watchers out there know that Eric is an idiot. Everywhere he goes he will more than likely hear some remark and that is revenge enough for me.

Ditto, Let it all speak for itself.

Got_Kaysar?
09-28-2005, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by jerrij
Most of the BB watchers out there know that Eric is an idiot. Everywhere he goes he will more than likely hear some remark and that is revenge enough for me.


AGREE *thumbs up*

jerrij
09-28-2005, 06:23 PM
Now if I could just run into Crappy so I could make a remark that would be awesome http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/jerrijan/biggrin.gif

Sherry
09-29-2005, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Wise_Diva
I think you should let this go....

I think Karma & public perception will take care of Eric & Company...We shouldn't sink to there level....

I totally agree. I'm sure Eric and the "Friendship" have enough to deal with. Eventually we will all forget about what they did, however, those involved directly with them will likely never forget. They will be talking about their actions and comments for years to come. Someday some way, their actions and comments will always haunt them.
I personally never want to sink to the level of the "Friendship"