Any1 believe in phychics? Any1 Don't? [Archive] - Kaysar Ridha Community Forums

janall

10-06-2005, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist

Are there alot of charletons out there? Oh yeah... but at the same time there are those that truely have the gift. We all have psychic abilities. It all depends on how much one develops those abilities. Some people are going to be more apt in that area... There are exercises people can do to develop their psychic abilities. And then there are people that don't have to work at it...It's no different than sports or arts... most of us have the ability to learn a sport or type of art and there are others that can really excel at it.

I agree 100% with your post,because I am one and I dont have to work at it. It's not something I think about day to day in my life,but when things happen,well it can go many ways...Most time I think * why does God want me to know this* or * what does he want me to do with this info*...I tell my close family and friends about things,Others I dont,because most just go "Oh your crazy" And That! just makes you think "hummm maybe I am on some level"...

I know speaking for myself...I hate when I have dreams months ahead of time about something that is going to happen(and they do happen) Then when they do,it's very upsetting,because you know this is come'n,but you didnt know when or where and even if you did know,there is NOTHING! you could have done to stop it :(

janall

10-06-2005, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by JohnnaWa
yes i believe. 10% of the human mind is utilized in most people. makes you wonder what the other 90% is capable of, doesn't it?

very true

Ottojr

10-06-2005, 01:29 PM

No.

blueeyesdebbie22

10-06-2005, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
Awe. B.E.D. (blueeyesdebbie) tahnk you. That was very sweet. Sniff sniff. lol. I try and be envoled as much as I can. I think i may have scared a few away when I joked about Kaysars halloween costume. Him being the horse and Me being the rider lol. I think people might have gotten affended. Oh well I thought it was a cute idea.RyanShae hasnt written me back yet. I wanted to know if Kaysars going to write me. But I you cheer me up as well. Ive made some good friends here thats why I post so much;)

If you have offended people what do you think I have done with the Halloween Costume that are just wrong and gross picture post. My god I really got it for posting that one :D:D:D, but that has not stopped me from posting lol. Did you see where I said I would be a car door and Kaysar could slam me all night long LOL

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 01:39 PM

janall I agree with you. I have dreams all the time. But there are dreams and then the ones that are so real you know somethings going to happen. I dreamt of a big wave of ocean water comming into a city. I was there and my brother and i remember us running to get to the top of a tall building and watching the water rise and people drowning. This was a week before the soonomi ( how ever u spell it) But only my brother and i weren't there. So its confusing.B.E.D. Thanks I miss them very much but i feel them with me all the time. Kabbalist- Thank you I will have to read up that way I can practice. And I will start meditating. I keep telling myself to do it but i never mack time. But I think I should. It would def be good for me.:)

janall

10-06-2005, 01:40 PM

"the psychic if they are terrified of snakes could easily misinterpret that image's meaning"

True,its very hard to understand sometimes what the signs mean...and upsetting when it happens and you go "Damn! I should of known that" :O lol...Yea ...wish I could see ahead of time who was going to win a race..then I wouldnt have to put myself through watch'n Jeff Gordon win grrr :P

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 01:42 PM

Well, I think if I gave an answer to that question, I would be getting messages comparable to Kaysar in my U2U inbox. *chuckles*

And, not all psychic ability is the same. Some can sense the future. Some have an ability to sense things happening now. Some can understand and figure out the mysteries of the past.

If you believe in souls and the spirits/ghosts ideas, there are psychics who can communicate with them. How each person does it is different too.

I think I've always been aware of other things. I grew up afraid of ghosts, and not the Caspar/Ghostbuster variety, either. Real ghosts. My house wasn't haunted; no one died there and there wasn't any horrible thing to happen on the land. I was two when my mother once asked me what scared me. I said ghosts, or essentially stuff that meant that. I wasn't aware of what that word meant until a few years later.

I would find myself waking from sleep with visions. Seeing things, feeling things, having reoccuring dreams about falling. Past times. Stuff that I couldn't trace to anything I'd watched. In fact, I'd black out at times during school and the scenes in the dream would flood back. It'd be moments to most people. But, it seems hours to me. The sinking feeling; a dead feeling would enter me.

It was freaky, but I simply thought I was crazy and moved on. Later, after going to Gettysburg battlefield and the town, and knowing that the ground is haunted, I began to have experiences that didn't relate to anything I'd read...until I read about them AFTER having them.

I almost fell in the Railroad Cut, which is a trench cut where the railroad tracks cut through, and was the scene of some pretty bad fighting. I almost fell into it because I, again, blacked out. I'd hear voices. I'd see things that would "disappear." And, later, my family revealed what they saw and didn't see.

The worst part was staying in a motel and because I'm a wannabe insomniac, I wasn't able to sleep. I kept hearing footsteps and the jangling of chains or keys in a pocket. A book I bought later, and read when I got home, stated that there's a motel, located on the battlefield where there are sounds of chains.

Finally, as I moved out of the house, I started becoming aware of a presence around me. I'd sit in my room, trying to sleep, and feel like I was being watched. It's not normal paranoia. I would actually sit up and look around. Look in my closet.

I started having more dreams. Started hearing voices. Not like crazy voices. Echoed voices. Voices that were outside of me. The visions became stronger.

In 2001, when the World Trade Center happened, I was hysterical the night before. I've found, before massive tragedies in the world, I get upset to the point I'm hyperventilating and it's for no reason. I'm just sad and hurt. I woke up at the exact minute the first plane hit. I felt sick all day. I woke up before my alarm clock, woke up before I had intended to.

A lot of people are skeptical, but I don't mind their disbelief. As long as they're not calling me crazy, all is good. I've predicted when things are to arrive, who is calling, what people will do, and I've experience the entire deja vu of dreaming something and then seeing it come true.

Sorry for being so long. Kabbalist is right, though. About 90% of the human population has the ability to be psychic...and not the Miss Cleo variety. It's a willingness to develop it, which takes a lot of practice.

I was lucky and didn't have to practice too much. Self-hypnosis came easy for me, and I can astrally travel if I want. And, almost every tarot, astrology, or other occult reading I've had has claimed me to be psychic.

janall

10-06-2005, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by blueeyesdebbie22
Originally posted by Winter80
Awe. B.E.D. (blueeyesdebbie) tahnk you. That was very sweet. Sniff sniff. lol. I try and be envoled as much as I can. I think i may have scared a few away when I joked about Kaysars halloween costume. Him being the horse and Me being the rider lol. I think people might have gotten affended. Oh well I thought it was a cute idea.RyanShae hasnt written me back yet. I wanted to know if Kaysars going to write me. But I you cheer me up as well. Ive made some good friends here thats why I post so much;)

If you have offended people what do you think I have done with the Halloween Costume that are just wrong and gross picture post. My god I really got it for posting that one :D:D:D, but that has not stopped me from posting lol. Did you see where I said I would be a car door and Kaysar could slam me all night long LOL

ROFLMAO!!!!! I didnt see that ...good one Deb

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 01:45 PM

Kabbalist- Nooooooooooooooo. I have to know if hes going to. Na I'm just kidding I get what your saying. Id be nice though. B.E.D. I remember. Kaysar would be slamming you all not long. HEHE:P We still have the best costume choices on there i think personally. Not as many people writing about it as i thought they would. I think its fun to pretend.

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 01:48 PM

Oh, and not to scare anyone, because it doesn't happen to everyone, but I should explain why ghosts/spirits scared me.

They scared me not because they were ghosts and the like. They scared me because there are some out there that want to hurt me. Not all spirits are bad. Some are like guardian angels. The grandfather I never knew (my mother's father--he died when she was in the womb) is one of them. I also know that some have hurt me and have tried.

I don't want to scare people, but I began to believe when I would mediate, and in doing so, you relax your entire body. To the point that if it was suggested for you to lift your arm, you wouldn't lift your arm. Sleeping on my own, I'd never end up hurt or showing signs of it. But, when you get marks in the pattern of a handprint on you, and it's after a particularly horrifying experience, you start questioning your own sanity and whether or not you can continue being skeptical of what you know.

Fact is, it's very important to learn defensive skills before doing anything in the psychic realm. I knew these skills, but I have some enemies, and they like fighting my defenses. It doesn't happen to everyone, though I have talked to a few that it did. But, it's not something I would ever encourage people to dabble in. Do lots of reading and looking into it.

blueeyesdebbie22

10-06-2005, 01:48 PM

Oh my bad didnt know you all were going to quote the stuff geez :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 01:53 PM

I also read Tarot and have been extremely and horrifyingly accurate. I actually put them down about a year ago and haven't picked them back up when something else I saw came true.

I never read for family, friends or self. I guess I'm better off not knowing in my mind.

Deb

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by janall
"the psychic if they are terrified of snakes could easily misinterpret that image's meaning"

True,its very hard to understand sometimes what the signs mean...and upsetting when it happens and you go "Damn! I should of known that" :O lol...Yea ...wish I could see ahead of time who was going to win a race..then I wouldnt have to put myself through watch'n Jeff Gordon win grrr :P

This is very true! I avoided reading when tired or if I'd had sugar or caffine or if I was seriously worried about something. All things in your enviornment effect the outcome.

Deb

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 01:56 PM

Rhyanshae- You have some interesting stories. Ive never had an experience with a ghost. Well not really. But I d like too as long as they dont intend to hurt me and as long as they dont appear behind me in a mirror. yikes that gives me the willies thinking about that. Im glad i started this topic. So many opinions and stories. So does anyone believe in past lives?

janall

10-06-2005, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
janall I agree with you. I have dreams all the time. But there are dreams and then the ones that are so real you know somethings going to happen. I dreamt of a big wave of ocean water comming into a city. I was there and my brother and i remember us running to get to the top of a tall building and watching the water rise and people drowning. This was a week before the soonomi ( how ever u spell it) But only my brother and i weren't there. So its confusing.B.E.D. Thanks I miss them very much but i feel them with me all the time. Kabbalist- Thank you I will have to read up that way I can practice. And I will start meditating. I keep telling myself to do it but i never mack time. But I think I should. It would def be good for me.:)

Yea thats what i mean,you dream about things and cant do anything about them :(...I think ppl dream about that kinda stuff all the time,but it's the ones that feel like your right! there when it's happeneing and you wake up in a cold sweat that's the kicker

karina

10-06-2005, 01:58 PM

I believe that there are many out there who have a gift, but at the same time, there are also many who don't have it but use it to exploit people, which isn't so nice.

I have had the fortunate experience of finding one I trust and so far she's been pretty spot on about everything that's gone on in my life, from my current SO to my career path and everything. Kinda crazy.

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by RhyanShae
Oh, and not to scare anyone, because it doesn't happen to everyone, but I should explain why ghosts/spirits scared me.

They scared me not because they were ghosts and the like. They scared me because there are some out there that want to hurt me. Not all spirits are bad. Some are like guardian angels. The grandfather I never knew (my mother's father--he died when she was in the womb) is one of them. I also know that some have hurt me and have tried.

I don't want to scare people, but I began to believe when I would mediate, and in doing so, you relax your entire body. To the point that if it was suggested for you to lift your arm, you wouldn't lift your arm. Sleeping on my own, I'd never end up hurt or showing signs of it. But, when you get marks in the pattern of a handprint on you, and it's after a particularly horrifying experience, you start questioning your own sanity and whether or not you can continue being skeptical of what you know.

Fact is, it's very important to learn defensive skills before doing anything in the psychic realm. I knew these skills, but I have some enemies, and they like fighting my defenses. It doesn't happen to everyone, though I have talked to a few that it did. But, it's not something I would ever encourage people to dabble in. Do lots of reading and looking into it.

Odd isn't it, how if you've been presented with spirits at an early age (I was 5 or so) you learn earlier what to fear and what not to. I learned early on which to keep out of my realm...I've been told that they don't like my aura.

Deb

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 01:59 PM

Kabbalist- I know who your talking about. The women on the reality show. I seen an episode and remember her.:D thats pretty cool

blueeyesdebbie22

10-06-2005, 02:01 PM

Do you think that is what was really wrong with Emily Rose? There were sprits and ghost out to harm her?

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 02:04 PM

I've woken up to a ghost standing over me. It was before I could see most of the features. It made me yelp. They have a habit of forgetting that they're here, but not here, and if they're a pleasant spirit, they will try to make it up to you.

I have a few that hang about me. I don't believe in the entirity of unfinished business. I think some just like hanging out with us because they're connected to us in some way. So, I started making rules. They can't bother me in any way that would lead to me getting hurt (like, on the stares), and if they touch me, they have to do it when I'm not moving. I had one grab me two years ago on New Years early morning. NOT FUN. Right out on hte street. Embarassed the hell out of me.

I mean, dozens of people around, and I jump out of my skin for no apparent reason. Yeah, fun!

I am also a believer in past lives. I call on at least one of them for my writing. It's not the exact story of my past life, but the visions from my past life helped me write. I have many visions. I usually visit my memories, buried very deep, in meditation. Helps me see the mistakes I've made and how to not make them now.

Past lives are interesting because I don't always believe you learn from them. My beliefs are that not every soul chooses to return to earth repeatedly. Instead, they can either return to the maker, or they can return to earth. Many return to stay near loved ones in the new life. Others, simply because they're bored.

Heh, like I said, it's my belief. I think when humanity is done, the reincarnation will be done. I don't believe human souls return to animals. I believe animal souls return to animals.

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 02:05 PM

Good question Debbie. Does anyone think The amity ville horror is true or a make believe thing to get money?

janall

10-06-2005, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by blueeyesdebbie22
Did you see where I said I would be a car door and Kaysar could slam me all night long LOL

http://www.jewelsofbathsheba.com/Emoticons/roflmao.gif

OMG thats a kewl "roflmao" lol

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:08 PM

Past lives are interesting because I don't always believe you learn from them. My beliefs are that not every soul chooses to return to earth repeatedly. Instead, they can either return to the maker, or they can return to earth. Many return to stay near loved ones in the new life. Others, simply because they're bored....

I am currently fascinated with the Hindu idea of reincarnation until you get it right. I hadn't thought about it as a choice though...interesting.

Deb

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Debookwrm

Odd isn't it, how if you've been presented with spirits at an early age (I was 5 or so) you learn earlier what to fear and what not to. I learned early on which to keep out of my realm...I've been told that they don't like my aura.

Deb

We all have natural defenses, and for the most part, one is not being aware that the ghosts are even there. The more communication you have with them, the more connected to you they become. They can call upon you and connect to you, and contact you whenever. It's irritating and frightening. So, our natural thing is to shut them out by not even knowing they're there.

It takes a tremendous amount of my energy to do anything in the psychic realm. Because, I generally encounter the jerks and I have to defend myself and get back to my body, so to speak. They can do more to your personal spirit and soul than to your body, but it's still scary. I hope I'm not scaring too much. Generally, the spirits met are nice and want to contact you because of familial or friendly contact.

Some aren't nice. That is why seances and Ouija boards should not be used unless the person leading it is the agreeable medium and the only one opening themselves to influence from the spirit.

blueeyesdebbie22

10-06-2005, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by blueeyesdebbie22
Oh my bad didnt know you all were going to quote the stuff geez :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
That one is a classic! I'm going to have to borrow that... LOL:P

:D:D

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 02:10 PM

ouija boards have never really scared me. Mainly because i have never played with anyone that would take it seriously. Most of them would move it themselves and id get mad. I dont think stuff like that is a joke. Does anyone belive in any superstitions. Like the breaking the mirror thing, walking under a ladder?

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:11 PM

I had a freaky thing with a co-worker happen when I read his cards... at the time when the Death card came up I interpretted by the book...ya know, a major change is going to take place. I never interpret it as death.... well, this guy I read for was driving drunk and crashed his car... the girl that was with him died... and who does he blame? ME!! He freakin' came after me at work screaming that I had cursed him with the reading... that was pretty scary... he was removed from the premises and fired... but I sure was looking over my shoulder wondering if the dude was going to come after me:(

Other than that I've not had any negative freaky occurances that I know of. Most the people I've read for I never see again because it was out at places like Disney and Universal Studios...

I've seen several deaths of friends and family, the last of a girl of only 21...that's the one that made me put them down. I haven't ever seen a death card as anything but death unless it was so. I don't know if it's instinct or what, but like I said...I'm disturbingly accurate. I like to believe it's a gift from God and not what I've been told it is.

My friends and family are still trying to get me to pick them back up...but they're locked away until I can get over Melissa. It's still too painful.

Deb

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by Debookwrm
I also read Tarot and have been extremely and horrifyingly accurate. I actually put them down about a year ago and haven't picked them back up when something else I saw came true.

I never read for family, friends or self. I guess I'm better off not knowing in my mind.

Deb
I had a freaky thing with a co-worker happen when I read his cards... at the time when the Death card came up I interpretted by the book...ya know, a major change is going to take place. I never interpret it as death.... well, this guy I read for was driving drunk and crashed his car... the girl that was with him died... and who does he blame? ME!! He freakin' came after me at work screaming that I had cursed him with the reading... that was pretty scary... he was removed from the premises and fired... but I sure was looking over my shoulder wondering if the dude was going to come after me:(

Other than that I've not had any negative freaky occurances that I know of. Most the people I've read for I never see again because it was out at places like Disney and Universal Studios...

The Tarot readings I had done were by friends, and they'd been doing it a while. They were Wiccans too. But, if you're going to have a tarot or astrology reading, educate yourself a LITTLE about that, as well. I mean, I've had the death card come up a few times in my readings (more than I'd like. I don't always like major changes), but I never associated it with Death. Because, I did a little work and saw that it doesn't mean death literally.

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:12 PM

We all have natural defenses, and for the most part, one is not being aware that the ghosts are even there. The more communication you have with them, the more connected to you they become. They can call upon you and connect to you, and contact you whenever. It's irritating and frightening. So, our natural thing is to shut them out by not even knowing they're there.

It takes a tremendous amount of my energy to do anything in the psychic realm. Because, I generally encounter the jerks and I have to defend myself and get back to my body, so to speak. They can do more to your personal spirit and soul than to your body, but it's still scary. I hope I'm not scaring too much. Generally, the spirits met are nice and want to contact you because of familial or friendly contact.

Some aren't nice. That is why seances and Ouija boards should not be used unless the person leading it is the agreeable medium and the only one opening themselves to influence from the spirit.

Speaking of...have you ever been 'out of body'. I've only done it a few times and have only been able to hover near by corporal self.

Deb

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by Debookwrm

This is very true! I avoided reading when tired or if I'd had sugar or caffine or if I was seriously worried about something. All things in your enviornment effect the outcome.

Deb
I always prepared before going to a tarot reading gig... and the interesting thing I found at the conventions I was hired for was I was able to tell what kind of company it was.... For ex: It was always a fun night at the Nintendo convention. A bunch of happy workers and just well rounded people in general... but OMG! I had to read for this Pharmicutical sales convention and nothing but swords kept coming up! The energy was sooo negative there! I finally gave up on the cards because the readings were just too awful that I pulled out my *Karma deck* which is positive afirmations. It's always good to have a couple of standby decks at those kinds of venues. You never know what kind of crowd you will get....

...just swords...Wow...that is telling.

Deb

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 02:19 PM

Yes, I've travelled to Wisconsin and I live in NY. My ex was in Wisconsin at the time, and I wanted to visit. I've also traveled to my friends home north of where I am. A place I've never been. I was able to tell her what her house looked like, her yard, her room, and to pinpoint an answer to a question she asked me.

It's freaky, and I was exhausted for three days after the Wisconsin trip. My body ached. Mostly because I was away from it. It was amazing, and I'd love to do it again, but it's just..wow. hehe

Re: Ouija boards. My first encounter was when I was 12. My cousin claimed, at the time, she was moving it so that my younger cousin would not get scared. The problem is that at the time, a bad spirit had come through and was strangely attached to me. He wouldn't identify himself except by a letter.

About eleven years later, I held one with some friends, all in seriousness. We sanctified the board and area, I opened the circle, and I agreed, for part of the time, to remove my hands and allow the others to deal with it. I still was in charge of it, for I was the medium, but the same guy showed up. Turns out that, prior to the second Ouija board experience, I had encountered him in my mediation and psychic meanderings. He was an enemy of mine. Fun, eh?

So, no one got hurt because I was in control the whole time. But, I would ask the questions to which I knew the answers. Without touching it at all, the answers were given. With just my friends hands.

Things like that, as I said, shouldn't be taken lightly. Ouija boards are notorious for attracting bad spirits because they're pretty easy to manipulate and communicate through. Know what the heck you're doing before playing around with them.

blueeyesdebbie22

10-06-2005, 02:21 PM

you guys skipped my question
Do you think that what was really wrong with Emily Rose? that she was haunted by sprits and ghost trying to do harm to her?

JLittmann

10-06-2005, 02:21 PM

I don't believe in it at all, but I'm open to the possibiity of being proven wrong, (through science) and I like hearing about it. I think it deserves as much respect as any of the traditional/mainstream religions.

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 02:23 PM

Oh, some things I do for protection:

I sleep with my athame under my pillow. Everynight. If it's not under my pillow and falls between my headboard and mattress, I wake up. sometimes, it will find it's way from under the pillow and in my hand, next to my body. My athame is my protection.

I wear a ring with an ex's name in hieroglyphics. We're not together, nor are speaking, but I know his soul, and his soul and spirit are protective. It's something I do not take off.

I annoint myself with a mixture of aromatherapy oils. I also usually only conduct a serious ritual on Halloween, and that's now when I do my most...decisive psychic traveling. Lots of energy in the air to pull from.

I sometimes use self-hypnosis tapes if I think the noise of the neighbors will be too loud. I made them myself, so my voice calms me and centers me.

And, I learned to give myself sounds or code words to tell myself to awaken if I'm especially threatened.

Just a hodge-podge of things I keep forgetting to add.

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 02:26 PM

whats everyones thoughts on Guardian angels?

loveyoukaysar

10-06-2005, 02:27 PM

With all this psycic talk going on I have a question! :) Can anyone see if my pregnancy test is gonna be +? LOL I really beleive in this stuff, and I have to wait 2 weeks to find out if my procedure worked or not! LOL

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 02:29 PM

if you are pregnant. Congrats!:D

blueeyesdebbie22

10-06-2005, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by loveyoukaysar
With all this psycic talk going on I have a question! :) Can anyone see if my pregnancy test is gonna be +? LOL I really beleive in this stuff, and I have to wait 2 weeks to find out if my procedure worked or not! LOL

Oh I hoped it worked for you!!!!!! :):):)

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by RhyanShae
Yes, I've travelled to Wisconsin and I live in NY. My ex was in Wisconsin at the time, and I wanted to visit. I've also traveled to my friends home north of where I am. A place I've never been. I was able to tell her what her house looked like, her yard, her room, and to pinpoint an answer to a question she asked me.

It's freaky, and I was exhausted for three days after the Wisconsin trip. My body ached. Mostly because I was away from it. It was amazing, and I'd love to do it again, but it's just..wow. hehe

Re: Ouija boards. My first encounter was when I was 12. My cousin claimed, at the time, she was moving it so that my younger cousin would not get scared. The problem is that at the time, a bad spirit had come through and was strangely attached to me. He wouldn't identify himself except by a letter.

About eleven years later, I held one with some friends, all in seriousness. We sanctified the board and area, I opened the circle, and I agreed, for part of the time, to remove my hands and allow the others to deal with it. I still was in charge of it, for I was the medium, but the same guy showed up. Turns out that, prior to the second Ouija board experience, I had encountered him in my mediation and psychic meanderings. He was an enemy of mine. Fun, eh?

So, no one got hurt because I was in control the whole time. But, I would ask the questions to which I knew the answers. Without touching it at all, the answers were given. With just my friends hands.

Things like that, as I said, shouldn't be taken lightly. Ouija boards are notorious for attracting bad spirits because they're pretty easy to manipulate and communicate through. Know what the heck you're doing before playing around with them.

The first time it happened I wasn't expecting it and it scared the beejeebee's out of me...I was just working and suddenly there I was watching myself work. It was like floating.

Deb

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 02:33 PM

About Emily Rose...I just read up on it again as I was, well, sadly forgetful about it.

Can spirits influence you and take over your body? Yes, I've had it happen. I was scratching at myself and contemplating self-mutilation of a different sort. I wasn't even in body at the time. I was wandering. I know about it through a conversation with a friend. Your facial expressions, your voice, mannerisms change.

So, was she possessed by the Devil? I don't believe in the Devil, but I believe in bad spirits, so it's possible, and probably likely.

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 02:33 PM

how do you make a out of body experience happen?

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:34 PM

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by RhyanShae
We all have natural defenses, and for the most part, one is not being aware that the ghosts are even there. The more communication you have with them, the more connected to you they become. They can call upon you and connect to you, and contact you whenever. It's irritating and frightening. So, our natural thing is to shut them out by not even knowing they're there.

It takes a tremendous amount of my energy to do anything in the psychic realm. Because, I generally encounter the jerks and I have to defend myself and get back to my body, so to speak. They can do more to your personal spirit and soul than to your body, but it's still scary. I hope I'm not scaring too much. Generally, the spirits met are nice and want to contact you because of familial or friendly contact.

Some aren't nice. That is why seances and Ouija boards should not be used unless the person leading it is the agreeable medium and the only one opening themselves to influence from the spirit.
This is going to sound weird to some, but I feel my psychic "gift" is that of a "spiritual warrior" of sorts.... I seem to have a really easy time of getting rid of malicious spirits and I become this pitbull when faced with them. I've always been that way. Even back when I was a Christian. My parents use to say it was my guardian angels, which is true... but I've noticed as I've delved more into the spiritworld that I just seem to have a knack for repelling them easily. Friends and my BabySis have called me when there needs to be a house cleansing... Even though I tell them what to do they still end up calling me after they've tried....

It posted before I could say anything.

I'm a bit of everything in the psychic realm. I call myself a variety of names for it, and in my belief, it is called Braegha. I sometimes am a warrior, sometimes a healer. I just have gifts in many different areas.

I have a psychic sword, of sorts. I have a marking on my spiritual self. I see things and appear a little differently than I am. But, I know the psychic warrior thing.

I really need to redo my old website on my beliefs.

I'm called egotistical when it comes to my belief system. Yet, I'm just humble as all hell, really. I just find people are designed to take on certain roles and they do so. I just am not made to take on one role and abandon the others.

blueeyesdebbie22

10-06-2005, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by RhyanShae
About Emily Rose...I just read up on it again as I was, well, sadly forgetful about it.

Can spirits influence you and take over your body? Yes, I've had it happen. I was scratching at myself and contemplating self-mutilation of a different sort. I wasn't even in body at the time. I was wandering. I know about it through a conversation with a friend. Your facial expressions, your voice, mannerisms change.

So, was she possessed by the Devil? I don't believe in the Devil, but I believe in bad spirits, so it's possible, and probably likely.

thanks RhyanShae for answering my post. They just had that movie out here that is why its fresh on my mind.
that has happened to you? How many times? How do you get out of something like that or does it just leave when it wants to. This is so interesting.

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
how do you make a out of body experience happen?

The first time I was stressed and it just happened. The other times I was relaxed...so I'm not sure.

Deb

blueeyesdebbie22

10-06-2005, 02:36 PM

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:37 PM

I'd rather see some nice wands and cups....but that's just me!

Deb

janall

10-06-2005, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by janall
Yea ...wish I could see ahead of time who was going to win a race..then I wouldnt have to put myself through watch'n Jeff Gordon win grrr :P
When I use to read tarot for the public and people would ask me about the lottery numbers I'd say, "Don't you think if I knew those numbers that 1) I wouldn't be here getting paid diddly reading cards & 2) that I would keep the winning numbers to myself!" LOL!

You are into racing? One of our clients has a car... It's car 51. the Marathon car. He's a noob, but I tell ya it's getting us into racing... it's just fun to see glimpses of our graphic work on national TV even though our driver doesn't get very far;)

And here is another fun little tidbit! That Reality Show that Janie is going to judge for? Well, the wife of our race driver is on that show trying to win with her idea of living above a morgue!

Anyway, sorry to go off topic... I saw you mention racing and couldn't help myself;)

That ok..I could take my butt of when it comes to racing :). Im a BIG! Nascar Fan (Dale Jr.) is my driver....

I dont do the cards or stuff like that..and to be truthful, having the whole "power' (if you will) thing scares me a little :(

janall

10-06-2005, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Debookwrm
Originally posted by janall
"the psychic if they are terrified of snakes could easily misinterpret that image's meaning"

True,its very hard to understand sometimes what the signs mean...and upsetting when it happens and you go "Damn! I should of known that" :O lol...Yea ...wish I could see ahead of time who was going to win a race..then I wouldnt have to put myself through watch'n Jeff Gordon win grrr :P

This is very true! I avoided reading when tired or if I'd had sugar or caffine or if I was seriously worried about something. All things in your enviornment effect the outcome.

Deb

Really!? this i didnt know

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:44 PM

janall

10-06-2005, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
Rhyanshae- You have some interesting stories. Ive never had an experience with a ghost. Well not really. But I d like too as long as they dont intend to hurt me and as long as they dont appear behind me in a mirror. yikes that gives me the willies thinking about that. Im glad i started this topic. So many opinions and stories. So does anyone believe in past lives?

"As long as they dont appear behind me in a mirroe" LOL! I hear yea sister :O

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 02:45 PM

i was always told you can tell a real physcic from a fake one by if they ask for you to pay them. Is this true?

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
i was always told you can tell a real physcic from a fake one by if they ask for you to pay them. Is this true?

I've never done it for money, but I've had people insist that they would pay me. For me...it's the experience. But I think I'm still a novice in spite of my accuracy. Someone who has honed the talent and has to make a living...well, why not be paid for doing something you do well.

Deb

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 02:49 PM

true. Well then hoe od you tell if your going to a real one besides later on finding out there fake?

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by janall
Originally posted by Winter80
Rhyanshae- You have some interesting stories. Ive never had an experience with a ghost. Well not really. But I d like too as long as they dont intend to hurt me and as long as they dont appear behind me in a mirror. yikes that gives me the willies thinking about that. Im glad i started this topic. So many opinions and stories. So does anyone believe in past lives?

"As long as they dont appear behind me in a mirroe" LOL! I hear yea sister :O

In my last house...a spirit used to hover over me whenever I went to bed until I said goodnight to her. I had the impression that she was someone's mother. But she was nice...she never did the laundry or anything, but she was nice.

Deb

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by blueeyesdebbie22
Originally posted by RhyanShae
About Emily Rose...I just read up on it again as I was, well, sadly forgetful about it.

Can spirits influence you and take over your body? Yes, I've had it happen. I was scratching at myself and contemplating self-mutilation of a different sort. I wasn't even in body at the time. I was wandering. I know about it through a conversation with a friend. Your facial expressions, your voice, mannerisms change.

So, was she possessed by the Devil? I don't believe in the Devil, but I believe in bad spirits, so it's possible, and probably likely.

thanks RhyanShae for answering my post. They just had that movie out here that is why its fresh on my mind.
that has happened to you? How many times? How do you get out of something like that or does it just leave when it wants to. This is so interesting.

You're welcome. Didn't want to ignore that question. Just wanted to reeducate myself.

Well, it's confusing. I had been having a convo with my friend and I decided to meditate a little and let one of my trusted spirits have the floor. I've done it before with him, and I knew he was trustworthy. Being a medium can be dangerous, and sometimes, you can do it on purpose, and sometimes, in the poor possession case you brought up, it's not consensual.

My trusted spirit spoke, and then was going to leave and call me back in, joking, according to my friend, about me going off shopping. *laughs* Anyway, when he left and I was to go in, I didn't go in immediately, which can happen, and a spirit that was hanging around, decided to have fun.

It was scary as hell because I wasn't aware of any of it. I just thought it was taking a long time. He was beligerant, and it took my friend begging for me, as well as the friendly spirit's work to get him out and me back in.

I opened my eyes and saw my arms were scratched up and my friend's face was pale and worried.

It doesn't happen often. A lot of times, I allow myself to be a medium. It's easier than relaying the questions from the spirits to the person asking and the answers back.

Various people have different methods for astral travel (the out of body experiences) and psychic activity. So, how I do it is not the same as someone else. Because I am not restrained in any ritual in doing it, meaning I don't light candles all the time, and some of the other things suggested in the help books, my way doesn't work for a lot of others. I'm just naturally inclined, and I developed ways of watching myself to know what I'm doing to get ME there.

People beg me a lot to help them (the aforementioned friend, especially, as he's really interested in the Occult and other things), and I'm always hesitant because I don't know how to teach it. I know what to recommend, and I recommend a lot of reading about things, and a lot of awareness of what could go wrong before doing stuff.

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 02:52 PM

When I was younger i used to have dreams of monsters comming out of my mirror. Theywere so real. I swear i wasnt sleeping but of course no one believed me. I wander what that was all about. Spirits one thing but monsters? I dont know

janall

10-06-2005, 02:53 PM

Speaking of...have you ever been 'out of body'. I've only done it a few times and have only been able to hover near by corporal self.

Deb

Oh hell yes...It happened to me when I was about umm 6 years old...I didnt find out what had really happened until 3 years ago...Scary...I also had this! happen to me....I look down at my hand..I can feel it...with my other hand,but it's not my hand im looking at...I know..hard to explain...but believen me it's freEEEekKKkkYyYyYY

janall

10-06-2005, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by janall
Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by blueeyesdebbie22
Did you see where I said I would be a car door and Kaysar could slam me all night long LOL

http://www.jewelsofbathsheba.com/Emoticons/roflmao.gif

OMG thats a kewl "roflmao" lol
Feel free to snag it;) It's a favorite of mine too... I only pull it out when I'm *REALLY* heehawing over here... That line was the best! "I'd be the car door and he can slam me all night!" OMG!!!:P:P:P:P:P:P

Thanks kabbalist,thats very nice of you :)...But I could use it..see I havent been able to get AV's working yet :((...I got my pic in the pic room...but that all i can do so far :(...

blueeyesdebbie22

10-06-2005, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by RhyanShae
Originally posted by blueeyesdebbie22
Originally posted by RhyanShae
About Emily Rose...I just read up on it again as I was, well, sadly forgetful about it.

Can spirits influence you and take over your body? Yes, I've had it happen. I was scratching at myself and contemplating self-mutilation of a different sort. I wasn't even in body at the time. I was wandering. I know about it through a conversation with a friend. Your facial expressions, your voice, mannerisms change.

So, was she possessed by the Devil? I don't believe in the Devil, but I believe in bad spirits, so it's possible, and probably likely.

thanks RhyanShae for answering my post. They just had that movie out here that is why its fresh on my mind.
that has happened to you? How many times? How do you get out of something like that or does it just leave when it wants to. This is so interesting.

You're welcome. Didn't want to ignore that question. Just wanted to reeducate myself.

Well, it's confusing. I had been having a convo with my friend and I decided to meditate a little and let one of my trusted spirits have the floor. I've done it before with him, and I knew he was trustworthy. Being a medium can be dangerous, and sometimes, you can do it on purpose, and sometimes, in the poor possession case you brought up, it's not consensual.

My trusted spirit spoke, and then was going to leave and call me back in, joking, according to my friend, about me going off shopping. *laughs* Anyway, when he left and I was to go in, I didn't go in immediately, which can happen, and a spirit that was hanging around, decided to have fun.

It was scary as hell because I wasn't aware of any of it. I just thought it was taking a long time. He was beligerant, and it took my friend begging for me, as well as the friendly spirit's work to get him out and me back in.

I opened my eyes and saw my arms were scratched up and my friend's face was pale and worried.

It doesn't happen often. A lot of times, I allow myself to be a medium. It's easier than relaying the questions from the spirits to the person asking and the answers back.

Various people have different methods for astral travel (the out of body experiences) and psychic activity. So, how I do it is not the same as someone else. Because I am not restrained in any ritual in doing it, meaning I don't light candles all the time, and some of the other things suggested in the help books, my way doesn't work for a lot of others. I'm just naturally inclined, and I developed ways of watching myself to know what I'm doing to get ME there.

People beg me a lot to help them (the aforementioned friend, especially, as he's really interested in the Occult and other things), and I'm always hesitant because I don't know how to teach it. I know what to recommend, and I recommend a lot of reading about things, and a lot of awareness of what could go wrong before doing stuff.

wow I cant get enough of this stuff it is so interesting. Thanks:):):)

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by RhyanShae
Things like that, as I said, shouldn't be taken lightly. Ouija boards are notorious for attracting bad spirits because they're pretty easy to manipulate and communicate through. Know what the heck you're doing before playing around with them.
Personally,I disagree with that... the board is just an object. It's how the person(s) using it in what comes through. Personally, I don't believe certain unanimated objects attract good or evil. I do think they can be empowered to attract either good or evil. One thing I most definitely agree with... messing with the spirit world should NEVER be taken lightly! Protection is a must!

I also want to add that I find tarot is much easier for communicating with the spirit world than Ouija, but that's just personal preference. I have an affinity for the tarot. Spelling every thing out takes too long... Being guided to which card to pull is much easier and for me, more effective...

Speaking of talking to spirits... Halloween is upon us! All this talk of communing with the spirit world is inspiring me to do that this Halloween. There is an ornery old Rabbi I'd like to find... I haven't talked to him in a while;)

Maybe I misworded. I guess I see it as more apt to attract mal-intentioned spirits because, frankly, the people using it aren't knowledgable and aren't aware of the danger. It's easy to manipulate because, as my friend was, "I just want to talk to some spirits."

Okay, so now X is here. And, he's being a jerk to you. YOU SAID you wanted to talk to him. So, do it!

In my experience, I did open the floor to any spirit because I'm strong enough to vanquish it away if need be. No one got hurt. Once I knew it was X (that was the letter, by the way), I simply released him back to the spirit world, ended the session, and made everyone get up while I closed the board. They had to leave the room while I did that.

The difference is that I knew what the hell I was doing and opened the board up knowing I could stop whatever might go wrong. It would never get beyond what I could control. I still had the power. Too many enter a seance and/or play with the Ouija board, seriously looking for a spirit, and yes, in that instant, you 're going to attract the bad ones.

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
When I was younger i used to have dreams of monsters comming out of my mirror. Theywere so real. I swear i wasnt sleeping but of course no one believed me. I wander what that was all about. Spirits one thing but monsters? I dont know

Mirrors have been considered portents. The movie, Constantine, traps a demon in a mirror.

My favorite memory was going to a Halloween party and us stupid kids trying to get Bloody Mary to appear in the mirror. Some of us were able to. Some weren't. I'm not saying which I was. But, mirrors are easy reflecting surfaces, and some spellcraft deals with mirrors, scrying bowls, and other surfaces where visions and things can come to you and show themselves.

Think of LOTR when Galadriel bids Frodo to look into her pool. He sees a vision of, what in the books, really happens. He sees the future.

MIrrors and other reflective surfaces are important messengers. I'd say it wasn't a literal interpretation of monster, but facing inner turmoil or problems in your life. That the mirror was showing you what you'd encounter, what monsters are out there for you to defeat.

janall

10-06-2005, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by blueeyesdebbie22
you guys skipped my question
Do you think that what was really wrong with Emily Rose? that she was haunted by sprits and ghost trying to do harm to her?

Sorry hon,didnt mean to be rude,but anything that has to do with demons freaks me out,so I try not to even read about them...If you go back you will see I havent been posting to Rhyan either(sorry)...cause i know the posts are going to be scary :( I know im a big baby lol!

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 03:05 PM

thanks Rhyanshae.

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 03:05 PM

I don't believe in Guardian angels, per se, but protective spirits. Those who take upon themselves souls to protect. In fact, in my faith, they are called Protectors, and there's a similar role whose English name I can't remember. GAH! Anyway, they are spirits who will fight to protect you.

My maternal grandfather is one of them. :)

janall

10-06-2005, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
whats everyones thoughts on Guardian angels?

winter,you have some really good thread ideas...maybe you should put them out as threads,cause some might see this one and not want to post,but ones like "after life' and Guardian Angels" they might.....I know I'll be there....Just a thought :)

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 03:08 PM

When using tarot to talk to spirits I fan all of them out... and literally let the spirit guide my hand or eye to the card I need to pull. It works very well for me. I've had awesome results. So well that my godfather who taught me wanted me to try it with cowrie shells... we never got to that though (long story)

I always insist the person I'm reading for shuffle the cards (which is why I have frankincense burning while reading to cleanse between readings). I want their energy on the cards. I'm working off their psychic energy for the reading. They are actually the psychic and I'm simply the one who knows what the cards mean.

Exactly...it's their energy and fears that bring out the truth in my mind. I don't think it's me...I'm just the vessel.

Deb

janall

10-06-2005, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
how do you make a out of body experience happen?

I dont think you can just make them happen (I know I can't) Mine happened because of something that happened to me in my childhood.It was a way of the body protecting it's self from a truma

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 03:12 PM

Not all my posts are scary. :) I could post dozens of stories where I had good experiences. Like my trip to Wisconsin. *winks*

I've been able to communicate with, like I said, my maternal grandfather, a man I never met in my life. Neither did my mother. I've met with family and friends who have passed from this life.

I can joke and have some interesting, self-discovery type conversations. I've been able to find inner peace before by simply talking with them. My meditations have allowed me to see memories I'd forgotten in this life, and accessed happy times in the past.

Not all of it is demons and bad spirits. I'm just talking about them because, well, a lot of people are asking questions about how to do things, and I just want them prepared for whatever they might encounter, good or bad.

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 03:12 PM

Janall- Thanks for the sugestion. I went ahead and made a new one for after life. Your right i think some people might be thrown off alittle by this topic.- Kabbablist. Im sorry i hope i dont offend you. Thats just what my dad used to say. I personally think its ok to make money off of what your good at or believe in.

RhyanShae

10-06-2005, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by Winter80
i was always told you can tell a real physcic from a fake one by if they ask for you to pay them. Is this true?
IMNSHO: Psychics have to make a living too! I always thought that was such a crock when people would say that it was wrong to make money for doing readings. In my case I was hired by people putting on the special events and conventions. The people I read for didn't actually pay me although I did get a few tips from people really happy with the reading.

I don't make money, but that's just because it's unreliable and I'd hate to put myself in a situation where I was paid. If friends ask me for general readings (How I sense things in their love life, and not, "Will I marry Joey!?"<--That's my aunt's kind of question), I can answer for you. Specifics, I can't see. Just not gifted that strongly to answer for others.

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 03:17 PM

My first experience was in my Great great Great grandfather's house in Tennessee which was apparently part of the Underground Railroad. They hid soldiers in the attic. The man had the union uniform on...I didn't know that then of course...and he faded from the feet up with a big grin on his red bearded face. My nephew and I (he's a year older) were watching him in fascination. I think he was playing with us. :)

Deb

janall

10-06-2005, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by RhyanShae
Not all my posts are scary. :) I could post dozens of stories where I had good experiences. Like my trip to Wisconsin. *winks*

I've been able to communicate with, like I said, my maternal grandfather, a man I never met in my life. Neither did my mother. I've met with family and friends who have passed from this life.

I can joke and have some interesting, self-discovery type conversations. I've been able to find inner peace before by simply talking with them. My meditations have allowed me to see memories I'd forgotten in this life, and accessed happy times in the past.

Not all of it is demons and bad spirits. I'm just talking about them because, well, a lot of people are asking questions about how to do things, and I just want them prepared for whatever they might encounter, good or bad.

Ok...at the top of your posts just put....NO DEMONS HERE JANALL! ... lol :)

janall

10-06-2005, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
Janall- Thanks for the sugestion. I went ahead and made a new one for after life. Your right i think some people might be thrown off alittle by this topic.- Kabbablist. Im sorry i hope i dont offend you. Thats just what my dad used to say. I personally think its ok to make money off of what your good at or believe in.

Great...Im going to pop over and drop a few lines :)

Tara

10-06-2005, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Debookwrm
I also read Tarot and have been extremely and horrifyingly accurate. I actually put them down about a year ago and haven't picked them back up when something else I saw came true.

I never read for family, friends or self. I guess I'm better off not knowing in my mind.

Deb

I think these threads are great...it gives people opportunity to talk about things they would not normally share with others...

Yes...I believe in psychics, and reincarnation

My Aunt has been reading Tarot Cards for years and I have always wanted her to read mine but... she doesn't read for people who are close to her she says that it is too hard for her to discern what she reads and what she already knows about us.

I also agree that we all have psychic abilities but some have tapped into it more than others.

One time I had a reading done by a friends mom who lived in another State and it was taped... some time later the same person came back to town to give me a second reading which was also taped...It was suggested that I get the tape from the first reading and listen to it.... It turned out that the date on the first tape was EXACTLY on year earlier to the day...

I have had many small things happen to me from dreaming something that comes true to driving fast down the street and having a strong sudden urge to slow down only to see a cop with a radar a few blocks away.... I haven't taken the time to "tap" into it further... but it is something I'd like to do. I've also been told that I have very healing hands...

I love the idea that our souls ultimate purpose is to experience pure joy and we are reincarnated in order for our souls to reach that point....

janall

10-06-2005, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by janall
Thanks kabbalist,thats very nice of you :)...But I could use it..see I havent been able to get AV's working yet :((...I got my pic in the pic room...but that all i can do so far :(...
Is photobucket back up? They let you store and remote link for free...

Yae I have photobucket too and I cant work that either....I had someone from another club tell me i was doing things to ppl's user names...all i could do was LMAO! if she only know how puter stupid i am :(

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 03:26 PM

kabbalist- you forgot to add your long grey hair, with your 100 cats:P Might I add and this is off the subject. Kaysar looks good in every picture ive seen of him. Whats up with that. Even models have bad pics. Anyway sorry back to the topic now.

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 03:31 PM

do you makes posions too?

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 03:53 PM

does anybody believe in where you can move things with your minds?

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 04:13 PM

lol. Oh oops ok. You know i keep staring at that Naveen picture. Gosh hes distracting.:P

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 04:31 PM

I acually think he'll make it to at least next season. I know that him and Shannon are supposed to have a love affair this season. Plus with them bringing in a new women. I m starting to think it will be a guy leaving again. But i could be wwwwwwwaaaaaaayyyyy off. So i guess they win. I'll be stuck to to tv nevous to see what happens.lol

percarde

10-06-2005, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by Winter80
lol. Oh oops ok. You know i keep staring at that Naveen picture. Gosh hes distracting.:P
Yes he is! I'm bumming out that we are not getting more of him on Lost...I'm afraid he may be the one they kill off this season:( TV shows always kill off, vote off, and evict my favorite guys... *sigh*

With me, it is worse than that. If I like the show, its doomed!

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 04:42 PM

lol. Dont like the show. No No Bad show:D

percarde

10-06-2005, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
lol. Dont like the show. No No Bad show:D

My new mantra "I like the Martha Stewart shows!" http://fool.exler.ru/sm/gy.gif

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 04:58 PM

lol. I take it you dont like Martha.lol Aww why not. Dont feel bad im not a huge fan.

angelbabe

10-06-2005, 05:01 PM

i believe that we all have some sort of psychic abilities, it's just stronger in some people. i think the more we evolve more people will have this ability. just like kids today are far more smarter than say 50 years ago. not to say that kids weren't smart 50 years ago.

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 05:52 PM

I think a lot of people have the ability but i think people are afraid to put it out there. I guess for fear of ridicul. But I think it would be go to get it out in the open. Give people something to believe in again. Other than God or who ever you believe in

percarde

10-06-2005, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
lol. I take it you dont like Martha.lol Aww why not. Dont feel bad im not a huge fan.

Well, everyone knows that Elmo is evil and it seems they are good friends. So.......

http://pictures.cleanfunny.com/pics/elmo/elmo-springs-martha-stewart.jpg

DelilahJones

10-06-2005, 05:57 PM

I believe 100% that there are people with psychic ability.

I also believe 100% that there are always people who are greedy and wanting to make a profit off of other pepople, especially when they are in need. There are many many many false psychics.

There is a woman that i see once in a while, she is a numerologist, but she's also a psychic, she just uses teh numerology to help tune her into things. She has been amazing at telling me things about my past (even physical descriptions of relatives) and has been pretty right on describing people who are currently in my life, as well as telling me things that were going to happen that have.

DelilahJones

10-06-2005, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
So does anyone believe in past lives?

Without a doubt! =)

-diana-

10-06-2005, 06:00 PM

Question do psychics often see their own futures, fates, whatever?

-diana-

10-06-2005, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by DelilahJones
Originally posted by Winter80
So does anyone believe in past lives?

Without a doubt! =)

Sometimes when I think God is punishing me. :D I think I must have been really bad in a past life.

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 06:02 PM

Well, everyone knows that Elmo is evil and it seems they are good friends. So.......

No...it's not Elmo that's evil it's that big Purple Dinasaur...what's his name...exorcized from my mind.:)

Deb

IowaGal1975

10-06-2005, 06:03 PM

Barney.....don't kill me for posting that! ;)

DelilahJones

10-06-2005, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by -diana-
Question do psychics often see their own futures, fates, whatever?

From my understanding, people who are gifted with active psychic abilities are not able to see their own lives, their gift is a tool to help others. If it's abused, i believe it is taken away.

percarde

10-06-2005, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by Debookwrm
Well, everyone knows that Elmo is evil and it seems they are good friends. So.......

No...it's not Elmo that's evil it's that big Purple Dinasaur...what's his name...exorcized from my mind.:)

Deb

http://qpbs.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pG01-1147946reg.jpg

I thought he was the pimp?

DelilahJones

10-06-2005, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by -diana-
Originally posted by DelilahJones
Originally posted by Winter80
So does anyone believe in past lives?

Without a doubt! =)

Sometimes when I think God is punishing me. :D I think I must have been really bad in a past life.

Hmm, I see those situations as pain that's necessary for me to grow as a human, something i have to experience to have my soul evolve. =)

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 06:11 PM

Barny- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHH. Go away and take thqat song with you

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by percarde
Originally posted by Debookwrm
Well, everyone knows that Elmo is evil and it seems they are good friends. So.......

No...it's not Elmo that's evil it's that big Purple Dinasaur...what's his name...exorcized from my mind.:)

Deb

http://qpbs.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pG01-1147946reg.jpg

I thought he was the pimp?

Nooooooooo ....making sign of the cross even though not Catholic..... make it stop! Make it stop! Dialing therapist frantically....Dr. Freud...you said it was gone....aaaaaaahhhh!

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 06:18 PM

Sometimes when I think God is punishing me. :D I think I must have been really bad in a past life.

Just remember as you suffer through trials that He will not give you more than you can handle. Put your trust in Him...your faith in Him and you'll be fine.

Deb

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by IowaGal1975
Barney.....don't kill me for posting that! ;)

.............fingers in ears.........................

Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala
I can't hear you!

Debookwrm

10-06-2005, 06:32 PM

Sorry to change the thread so much...I'll happily return to it as soon as I've driven down the UGLY ones.

Deb

VeryFineWhine

10-06-2005, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by RhyanShae
(snip)

And, not all psychic ability is the same. Some can sense the future. Some have an ability to sense things happening now. Some can understand and figure out the mysteries of the past.

If you believe in souls and the spirits/ghosts ideas, there are psychics who can communicate with them. How each person does it is different too.
(Snip)

Sorry for being so long. Kabbalist is right, though. About 90% of the human population has the ability to be psychic...and not the Miss Cleo variety. It's a willingness to develop it, which takes a lot of practice.

(snip)

Phew...just cut to the points I want to reference. I didn't manage to read the full thread as my connection is running slow as molassas and I REALLY wanted to reply to this, as it is not only a topic that fascinates me, but one I have studied for years, am currently finishing a book on, and have lots to say about it :)

First, the opening statement isn't totally accurate. A psychic is a person who forecasts the future of a living person, or events in it. A Medium is a person who communicates with those that died, crossed over, passed on, choose a phrase you like. A good rule of thumb is that all Mediums are psychic but not all psychics are mediums.

I totally agree there is a wide variety of methods. The main ones are;

Clairvoyance-The ability to see Spirit.

Clearaudience -The ability to hear Spirit.

Clearsentience - The ability to sense or feel Spirit

Now to accurately understand this you have to go a little bit outside the box on some words...for example, you may "hear" spirit but it is often as a strong throught or almost as if your thoughts are talking. But then again there are some that can hear more clearly, as if it were another voice.

Last (for now...have a feeling I'll be posting more after I read the full thread, reboot and or kick my DSL, and finish watching The Apprentice lol), I firmly believe that EVERYONE, a full 100% have some degree of psychic ability and that so called sixth sense is one everyone has, in varying degrees. Some may never experience as more than a gut feeling or intuition, some may have a natural gift and excel at it, and others may fall inbetween and work long and hard to develop it. Most working legitimate Mediums (an area I know far better than psychics, and I can assure you there are many excellent, legitimate Mediums out there) have spent many years of their life learning how to best to tune in to the other side and to fully understand what things mean as it can be very hard to accurately understand, even amongst the best.

I'll end this on a very personal note. I never used to believe in life after death or the ability to communicate until my boyfriend was killed by a DUI and moved into my house, much to my surprise (I can assure you I wasn't looking for any signs, I was just trying to cry in peace lol). But once I saw he really was still there I set out to learn and understand the truth, and try to make some sense of it. And what an interesting trip that turned out to be!

Interesting timing of this thread. I stopped into a store yesterday that is going out of business and ran into a woman I hadn't seen in a year or so who is one of the best Medium's in New England. While we talked briefly about these matters (and mostly mutual friends/aquaintences) we primarily shopped till we dropped lolol. But come to think of it, that is a near spiritual experience for me ;)

kaysarluvr

10-06-2005, 07:49 PM

yes I believe...to make a long story short I got a reading and everything came true...in a round about kind of way...I got the reading as a joke and laughed after it was over cuz none of the stuff she told me could have actually happened...but it all did...maybe not to me but to people in my life and it all effected me!

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 08:08 PM

Do you believe people who do magic can really cause harm to people or is that just what you hear in movies.

kaysarluvr

10-06-2005, 08:21 PM

well I dont believe in magic tho

Winter80-sara

10-06-2005, 08:24 PM

Oh ok. I know a lot of people here do. I was just curious what they'd say.

VeryFineWhine

10-06-2005, 09:42 PM

I wrote a reply but my puter ate it GRRRRRRRR...will try again later but I truly need a board break now...if I come back and this board still is intelligent and not posting pics of monkeys I'll look forward to joining in again!

bambiangel

10-06-2005, 09:58 PM

to each his own..I enjoy lighthearted monkey pics as well as serious issues myself..My brain can actually grasp both...

VeryFineWhine

10-07-2005, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by bambiangel
to each his own..I enjoy lighthearted monkey pics as well as serious issues myself..My brain can actually grasp both...

Personally I have no problem with both (though personally am only interested in participating in one). It's when a group is FINALLY having an intelligent discussion and those monkey pics show up in the middle of it and nuke said chat it gets annoying and IMHO very immature behavior. I think there are plenty of fun loving, pic threads all over the board. I don't see why folks come in and take a conversation totally off topic. I find it disruptive and sad, cause those are the kinds of chats I hoped to find on this board, given how interesting a person Kaysar is. And because of it, it causes me to cringe when I see those threads cause they no longer hit me as fun, since they seem to take over every thread. I guess the 5000 threads that are humorous or just repeating "I love you Kaysar, Marry me Kaysar" aren't enough. Sorry maybe I'm just too far away from junior high, but I don't get why it must fill EVERY thread and conversation. And don't you (or the mods) notice how it effectively ends every conversation? :(

Debookwrm

10-07-2005, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by VeryFineWhine
Originally posted by bambiangel
to each his own..I enjoy lighthearted monkey pics as well as serious issues myself..My brain can actually grasp both...

Personally I have no problem with both (though personally am only interested in participating in one). It's when a group is FINALLY having an intelligent discussion and those monkey pics show up in the middle of it and nuke said chat it gets annoying and IMHO very immature behavior. I think there are plenty of fun loving, pic threads all over the board. I don't see why folks come in and take a conversation totally off topic. I find it disruptive and sad, cause those are the kinds of chats I hoped to find on this board, given how interesting a person Kaysar is. And because of it, it causes me to cringe when I see those threads cause they no longer hit me as fun, since they seem to take over every thread. I guess the 5000 threads that are humorous or just repeating "I love you Kaysar, Marry me Kaysar" aren't enough. Sorry maybe I'm just too far away from junior high, but I don't get why it must fill EVERY thread and conversation. And don't you (or the mods) notice how it effectively ends every conversation? :(

Well...when you get to the middle somewhere in this thread we jumped off topic for a page trying to drive down some argumentative threads...and keep the interesting one's near the top. Sorry to offend.

Deb

teebrd05

10-07-2005, 07:47 AM

I believe that people do have certain gifts :)

DelilahJones

10-07-2005, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by DelilahJones
Originally posted by -diana-
Question do psychics often see their own futures, fates, whatever?

From my understanding, people who are gifted with active psychic abilities are not able to see their own lives, their gift is a tool to help others. If it's abused, i believe it is taken away.
I personally don't believe it's "taken away" when abused... rather the abuser is unable to tap into their own psychic powers because they are clouded by their own evil doing. Kinda like how if a person eats too much they are going to get fat and not be able to fit into their "skinny clothes"... If they shed the weight, they are back looking good... it was never "taken away"... it was just hidden...

I am able to give myself accurate readings and see what direction my life is going. It's usually right on the money. I'm not developed enough to see anyone's *specific* futures (that I know of... most the people I read for I never see again...). I keep a journal and include all my readings. It's fun to go back and see how it all was revealed months before in previous readings.

Ok, I do believe that the ability is within everyone, most people aren't aware of how to tap into it. I do believe that some people are born as "naturals". Their psychic abilities are as much a part of them as breathing. They can't turn it off, they didn't turn it on, it's just something they wrote into their current incarnation.

Everyone else has these abilities, but they are latent. They can be accessed, but usually aren't.

I think many people are "intuitive". Intuition may be psychic abilities to a lesser degree, *but* I also think it's subconcious messages/nudging from our spirit guides.

There is a difference between feeling something might happen, or feeling which is the right way to go in a situation as opposed to clearly seeing a situation unfold. Being able to see faces, names, specific outcomes, etc. in a situation. I see that as the difference between being intuitive and being psychic.

I don't believe that one can really say to themselves, who am I going to marry, for instance, and then get a mental picture of the person. There are gifted psychics who can do this, but for others, not for themselves. That is my opinion anyway, I am not saying my idea is the only/right idea.

When I said that people who abuse the gift will have it taken away, I meant specifically when they use their gift to harm others, to take advantage of others and don't use it to serve humanity/the god energy. This is taking into consideration that I believe that some people are born with their psychic abilities fully developed and again, it comes as naturally to them as breathing. Your statement of it becoming clouded over is one I agree with 100%. Without the purity of intention, I believe that they are unable to access it. It was a poor choice of wording on my part.

Eek, I wrote a novel! =P

Debookwrm

10-07-2005, 11:19 AM

Sorry...I've got to do it again. It's a busy thread.

Kisses
Deb

Bump

VeryFineWhine

10-07-2005, 11:20 AM

I very respectfully disagree about not everyone having the ability. BUT that said, the comparison I use is that everyone can sing. Some so amazingly good they take your breath away, some quite pleasant to listen to, and some (like me) where you run screaming from the room with you ears bleeding or close to it :P (sad but true lol). Now in all of those catagories there is room to study, work, PRACTICE and get better. But how much better I think depends on how much of that ability you had to begin with.

But as someone who has taken many workshops with literally some of the best Mediums in the world...I was blessed to belong to a Spiritual Church that attracted literally some of the finest in the world who you would later see on TV and giving commercial seminars for absurd pricing. But it amazed me how much better I became.

It's hard to separate information you are getting, from trying to make that information make sense as what you think is a full message. I'll give an example. In one of those workshops we sat in a circle and had to go around and get information on someone across from us. One thing that popped clearly into my mind was I saw the side of my car (which is a shiny red convertable). Rather than just tell the guy this and see if it made sense to him I not only said it, but continued to say that I didn't know if it was a driving warning or or or. In other words I tried to take the info I got and make it into something more. Luckily the instructor was quite good and said, what exactly are you getting without adding anything to it. And I said, "a shiny red car." She then asked the guy if that made sense. He said yes, that week he bought a brand new red car. So, had I just given what I got and not tried to make it more, I would have been 100% on target. And often those who crossed over will give simple info like that just to validate they are seeing specific events because just saying "I love you" isn't going to prove anything. It was an excellent lesson. There was more but that's the short version.

And I think the hardest of all is to try to tune in to yourself or those close to you. I know many that won't do it. I learned a trick over the years. When I desperately need guidance and I want to be sure I'm not just telling myself what I want to hear, or sometimes what I don't lol, and that my info is legit, I ask for a validation. I have a very hard time trusting info if I'm not given something specific and unusual enough that I trust in it. If I'm confusing anyone I'll give 2 examples. One time they told me I would get money in the immediate future I was not expecting. I laughed because I had just done my finances and believe me had looked for any and all monies owed. When the mail came a few hours later there was a check from a stock company on some bonus payout. Needless to say I was overjoyed both for it being true and the money lol. And just the other day I was having a hard time believing some info and was told several things, all of which came true. I'll spare you the list but one was that I would hear from a friend I wasn't expecting to. And as I made a mental list of those who might call I was told it wouldn't be any of them. Two days later a friend I hadn't talked to in about a year called me out of the blue.

LOL I actually have more to say on taken away or not but for now I think I've blathered on quite enough...and I never even got back to my eaten "magic" post. But I think this stuff is more interesting personally anyway...the other really isn't my forte!

And since I believe that all this info either comes from our spirit guides or is helped to us by them, I have no problem believing intuition comes from Spirit. Source is source ( oh geez now I sound like Wayne Dyer lolol).

And lolol Delilah...I DID write a book (here and in real life tehehe). Not a novel though ;) But fascinating topic to get going on I think! Especially since it's one area where so many people have so many ideas, and there can be truth in most of them.

Debookwrm

10-07-2005, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by VeryFineWhine
I very respectfully disagree about not everyone having the ability.

I agree. I've never met anyone who didn't have something supernatural happen to them in regard to knowing something before it happened.

Deb

VeryFineWhine

10-07-2005, 11:25 AM

Oh I had one question I wanted to ask the skeptic...cause I just love asking skeptics this question..and I wanted to do it in a separate post since it's a different topic. Have you ever actually had a reading with someone legitimate? (Pretty well rule out anyone with a neon sign or an 800 number lol). But I find most folks who dismiss all this as bunk have never actually looked into it to see if there's truth there or not, so to me that's like saying I hate carrots, yet never having tasted a carrot in your life. :)

And I remember going to a John Edward lecture years ago and he asked who in the room was a skeptic. I quite proudly didn't raise my hand, as I truly believed by then. He bellowed out, "EVERY HAND IN THIS ROOM SHOULD BE RAISED." Then went on to talk about there being a difference between a closed and cynical mind, and always keeping a reasonable skeptical attitude and making a person prove they are getting legitimate information. He was right.

Debookwrm

10-07-2005, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by VeryFineWhine
Oh I had one question I wanted to ask the skeptic...cause I just love asking skeptics this question..and I wanted to do it in a separate post since it's a different topic. Have you ever actually had a reading with someone legitimate? (Pretty well rule out anyone with a neon sign or an 800 number lol). But I find most folks who dismiss all this as bunk have never actually looked into it to see if there's truth there or not, so to me that's like saying I hate carrots, yet never having tasted a carrot in your life. :)

And I remember going to a John Edward lecture years ago and he asked who in the room was a skeptic. I quite proudly didn't raise my hand, as I truly believed by then. He bellowed out, "EVERY HAND IN THIS ROOM SHOULD BE RAISED." Then went on to talk about there being a difference between a closed and cynical mind, and always keeping a reasonable skeptical attitude and making a person prove they are getting legitimate information. He was right.

I'm pretty open minded. One has to be to have faith.

Deb

VeryFineWhine

10-07-2005, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by loveyoukaysar
I have never been to one, even though I owuld love it. I do beleive there are certian people who know things about the future

I came back to answer this post because it's bugged me for DAYS. Most folks are unaware that there is a religion called Spiritualism, based primarily on a group of principles, and belief in Spiritual communication and healing. That is the VERY short explaination. Some folks use it as their primary religion, some add it on to their faith...seems to work for both.

Anyway, the connection to the post is there are thousands of Spiritualst churches across America (and the world). Services always have a demonstration of mediumship and a healing ceremony. Price of admission is that of any church...the pass a plate. So for those interesting in checking out local mediums I'd suggest seeing if there is a church in your area. Additionally many fine mediums will often to much lower priced readings as fundraisers for the church, and in the larger ones many have established friendships with World renowned Mediums who will come and lecture, read, do workshops and private readings. For example, one gentleman who does John Edward's overflow readings at John Edward prices would come to my church where you could hear him free or get a reading for less than a quarter of that price.

There are several websites that list churches....they are of course bookmarked on my other computer, but if anyone is interested I'd be glad to look them up.

But I really wanted to mention this as I find many folks have either never heard of Spiritualism, don't know the resources they might have in their own backyard, or know this good way to reach those who are legitimate in the field (since it's unlikely you will find a truly good medium advertising anywhere).

Now my answer deals with Mediums, those who communicate with dead loved ones, and while in the course of a reading you may get some info about your future, that generally isn't a pure psychic reading. But generally communities are small and they are likely to know who the true psychics are in the area if that is what you are looking for.

bambiangel

10-07-2005, 01:03 PM

I live 40 miles east of Gainesville, Florida... Do you know of a spiritualist church near here? I think I live in a bible belt .. because a new church goes up every month.. but all are christian based...and I am not knocking the faith..Just never understood the need for so many churches..When the monies collected to build it could be used to help other situations..

-diana-

10-07-2005, 01:08 PM

I watched a few John Edwards shows on television. It was interesting because the people prior would say that they are very skeptical and don't really believe, but towards the end of the show, it's a whole different story.

Debookwrm

10-07-2005, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by bambiangel
I live 40 miles east of Gainesville, Florida... Do you know of a spiritualist church near here? I think I live in a bible belt .. because a new church goes up every month.. but all are christian based...and I am not knocking the faith..Just never understood the need for so many churches..When the monies collected to build it could be used to help other situations..
How far are you from Cassadaga? There is a Spiritualist church there... I know it would be south of you off of I-4. It's actually a church I've been wanting to check out. I live in S.E. Orlando and it's north of me (halfway to Daytona from Orlando)... thanx to the extention of the toll road I could get there in 20min. vs. the hour it use to take traveling I-4.

I haven't been in Gainesville in a few years, but I do recall a very nice Pagan shop not far from the college. I bet they would know. I wish I could remember the name of the shop....

I was going to suggest Cassadega. I lived in Orlando for a while as a teenager. Visited it frequently. Good choice.

Deb

DelilahJones

10-07-2005, 01:37 PM

Fine whine, wasn't Helen Blavastsy a key person in the spiritualist movement? I worked at a bookstore for six years that had a large "metaphysical" section, and we sold a lot of books about her (and by her).

On a side note, I live about ten minutes away from Novus Spiritus, the church that was started by Sylvia Browne in the 70's. I intend to attend in a couple weeks. If it feels right, I'll probably continue to attend.

VeryFineWhine

10-07-2005, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist

And I remember going to a John Edward lecture years ago and he asked who in the room was a skeptic. I quite proudly didn't raise my hand, as I truly believed by then. He bellowed out, "EVERY HAND IN THIS ROOM SHOULD BE RAISED." Then went on to talk about there being a difference between a closed and cynical mind, and always keeping a reasonable skeptical attitude and making a person prove they are getting legitimate information. He was right.
Sadly, I think some people's religions deem this sort of things as evil and therefore they are not willing to investigate it for themselves.

I would LOOOOVE to go see Edwards! What was that experience like for you? I mean, what did you think of him seeing him in person? Was it pretty much like his show use to be? I have his psychic tapes which I highly recommend to folks interested in this sort of thing:cool: [/quote]

I've seen in in a seminar setting 3 times. Twice he was superb, the last time not as good, but I think if you aren't as fussy as I am about high quality Mediumship, folks might disagree. Personally I enjoyed him the most the first lecture. It was before his show was on and he was so damn funny you could have used depends. Ironically btw but so many think that this is sad work but the best Mediums I know always have you leave with as many smiles as tears. But his work that day was as good as I've seen, and some of the readings were truly breathtakingly specific and accurate. And what I liked is he could spend longer with folks and give more details, where TV being TV you get more of the soundbites. Though he is better than most at leaving in more of the process and not just cutting straight to the chin dropping moments. The 2nd time was also good, with a few goose bump moments. I live in New England and anyonne up this way knows of a tragedy several years ago where a group of firefighters got trapped in a warehouse in Rhode Island and they all died. Well the hall we were in (Berklee Performance Center which holds a couple thousand) had a balcony. He started reading a group of woman up there, and between the lights and his eyes he couldn't really see who he was reading. And he got a firefighter, and he started having them pass the mike down a row as he knew they were all related. Then he started describing how they died...firefighters in a big industrial building. At which point the entire audience realized he was getting this tragedy and in uninson gasped. He, having NO clue, literally jumped and was beyond confused. It was so charming. And sure enough it was all the widows. The entire audience gave those ladies a standing ovation at the end of the reading, and John AGAIN had no clue WTF was going on.

What made that day memorable for me was I had 4 comp tickets to it, and soon as I got them (it was only supposed to be 2 but 4 were there woohoo) I had a flash of a local Medium I knew casually at the time and saw him there with me. I knew in my gut he was supposed to go with me. Sadly at church on Sunday I was telling the story and a good church friend jumped on that pair of tickets like white on rice as they say lol. I didn't know what to say, and couldn't really say much but in my gut it felt wrong. Up until the time we were standing in line and I hear someone yelling my name and who is walking towards me but that guy. Gotta love it.

Here's the payoff. We got into a big discussion about how there were thousands lined up and folks begging for tickets and yet no one knew there were excellent mediums who were available and affordable in their own backyards. Well I went off on a good rant about it. So we all sat together (and since we were now a pack we had to take fairly lousy seats but I know what he looks like lol). That friend and I went to the rest room before it started and being a guy, he left while I was still inline, but when I got back to my seat he wasn't there and my friends told me he had been paged. End of story John did something he said he virtually never does, he called my friend on stage to introduce him because they have a mutual friend who spoke so highly of his Mediumship!! Now the woo woo part. Know what he spoke of? He virtually repeated my rant, and right then and there I knew why I was supposed to be with him that day. He said later he had no clue what he was going to say but everything I said was so true so he went with it lol. Love it!

Ok feels like I've been typing for eons so best stop before I bore anyone (though I have been stopping to watch the Red Sox game as I did this lol). OH as for Fl aside from Cassadaga which is more a community which I too would someday love to go to (plus another one in upstate NY called Lily Dale Assembly-and there is an AWESOME book out about the Dale so you might want to check your libraries for that if interested). Anyway I know there is at least one maybe 2 churchs in the Orlando area cause I got a friend of mine in Kissimmee the info. And also there is a spiritual center that Medium who works w/john edward goes to down there, but not sure where in FL....I'll check all the info later and post it.

DANG in proofing this book I forgot 2 key things (hope folks sat down with a cup o coffee or beverage of their choice sorry lol).

First, many who believe it's evil (and I agree there are many) haven't taken the time to investigate what the Bible actually says. For example while it warns against Mediums, in olden times the word Medium stood for a fortune teller NOT someone who discerned spirits. And while there are a few other confusing references the church not only granted Sainthood to some based on their ability to discern Spirits, but they say Jesus was a Medium. So I think much of that is ignorance not following their religion.

Second, I would definately recommend John Edward's seminars to someone new to this. My problem now is his last one was just massive with over a thousand people. For the price of a ticket I personally would rather go to someone I know is a good medium and have a private reading rather than sit in that large a room and watch others be read (sadly no comps for the last one...ah the price o fame lol). Also he didn't seem to work as well in that vast a room, and I assume he was bombarded by spirits trying to be heard. That or maybe he just had an off day. Ok shutting up now! Sorry bout the length.

VeryFineWhine

10-07-2005, 03:56 PM

Hard to believe but one more thing-- but this time about a Psychic. Like I said I'm far more interested in having readings with Mediums than psychics, but every now and again when I just can't make heads or tails out of my life there is only one psychic I know who I've found to be not only accurate but she generally ties in all the stuff that doesn't seem to make any sense. I can see why she also calls herself an intuitive Life Coach and psychic. Though she moved to Colorado she does completely accurate phone readings. She's by far the best psychic I've seen. If anyone wants her info U2U me and I'd be glad to get it to you. I still say my last reading with her probably saved me a year in therapy (I was in rough shape when I called...and for 2 days I kept stumbling on cards and other things related to her. Glad I took the hint lol). BOY did she not only nail my life but gave me great guidence to how to live with it and understanding why someone was behaving as they were.

Now I am truly shutting up lol :mad:

Winter80-sara

10-07-2005, 04:32 PM

Does anyone belive that phychics can be possessed by spirits. Or is that just what they say on tv and stuff?

percarde

10-07-2005, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Winter80
Does anyone belive that phychics can be possessed by spirits. Or is that just what they say on tv and stuff?

I worked with the son of a Baptist minister that claimed to have performed exorcisms.

VeryFineWhine

10-07-2005, 04:37 PM

TV totally. Kinda like Ghost Whisperer tonight for Mediums. I like the show, but that's not how ANY Medium actually gets information and I think it confuses people when they think it's like the spirit is in the room and solid and you can have a complete convo. Totally Hollywood.

The only possible exception is those with mental illnesses that hear voices and are told to do things and announce they are psychic and told to do bad things, when they really just need professional medical attention.

VeryFineWhine

10-07-2005, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Kabbalist
Originally posted by VeryFineWhine
TV totally. Kinda like Ghost Whisperer tonight for Mediums. I like the show, but that's not how ANY Medium actually gets information and I think it confuses people when they think it's like the spirit is in the room and solid and you can have a complete convo. Totally Hollywood.

The only possible exception is those with mental illnesses that hear voices and are told to do things and announce they are psychic and told to do bad things, when they really just need professional medical attention.

So you don't believe in channeling spirits? Or is that you see channeling spirits as something totally different?

Unless I took the original posters intent wrong, they were referring to the head spinning, pea soup demonic possession kinda taking over. Which no I don't believe in. Which isn't to say that I don't think that there can be some very dark spirits who will try to influence those on this side who are in a dark place (generally influenced by alchohol, drugs, etc.)

First, it's a personal thing but I hate the word channeling because I think it takes something very down to earth and often is used as something else. But let's put it this way...I believe a few folks can legitimately channel but far more are communicating with spirit and think they are channeling. (ETA to add how I define channeling...where a spirit that is on the other side of life takes over the phsycial body of someone alive on this side and uses it to communicate directly versus giving them information which the Medium then shares). I've seen some of the best and there is only one I truly believed was channeling and it was an energy and change in his body and voice like I have never seen. But I think it's a fine line between communicating with spirit and saying they are speaking through you, and actually having them use your body and you really having no part in it.

BTW I keep forgetting to answer the person who gave some woman's name and asked if they were part Spiritualism. It's a name I have never seen so I don't think so.

Anyway glad there was at least one person I didn't leave snoring lol...this topic fascinates me as you can tell. I'd love to hear more about others experiences.

And how in the world did you post in Comic sans vs this teensy font (of course if my posts were in a larger font it might be overwhelming lolol). Any time I tried to change the font it either ate the post or just changed one word at the end....not very effective either way :P