July 15 - Live Feeds Discussion

[Lane]

It's now 3:15am... the Sovs (Howie/Janelle/Kaysar) have had a very long talk in regards to Jase and whether he's in with the Chill Town alliance or not... Kaysar is not happy with James in the fact that he wants him to get rid of Jase because he apparently cheated in the food competition and as a result is now having to deal with having the BB slop for the rest of the week... Kaysar doesn't want to do his dirty work and said when he gets his chance to be HoH, that he can get rid of him... don't blame him at all there...

I'm not sure if the veto competition is today or if it's on Sunday... I believe Mike Boogie's birthday is on Sunday so I'm pretty sure there's going to be some party held for him...

Kaysar is showing a lot of signs of stress and concerns for Howie and Janelle since they'll be living off the BB slop for the week and will not have a lot of strength to hold out for the next HoH competition.

*sigh* it's going to be a long morning... I'm afraid he's not gonna sleep well at all

[luckygirl]

I am suprised that Howie has to eat the slop because I thought he was diabetic?????????

[karina]

I am suprised that Howie has to eat the slop because I thought he was diabetic?????????

thyroid problems, not diabetic.

[blueeyesdebbie22]

Actually James said the slop is not too bad to eat.
Janelle is already coming up with ways to add condiments and make it more editable.

Leave it to Janelle to make the best of any situation. She truly is an All Star.

It's a shame that James let Jase get to him during the competition yesterday. Him and Nakomis really cost their team yesterday with the foul up.

[ldystewart]

I also saw this talk and I think Kaysar is just really stressed with realizing everyone is coming after them. He starting to worry

[ldystewart]

This morning Mike Boogie called to diary room and was making fun of S6 or Team America because of them complaining about eating slop.

[Ladyjinx]

They have to retake their scene for the veto, playing is Kaysar, james, will, diane, nakomis, erica.
the Camera man says we have to redo this , and tells george we will redo the will, nakomis, Kay-zar thing and kaysar says....everyone is calling me Kay-zar.........

[Lane]

Feeds are back from veto competition... sounds like Nakomis and Diane did not win the veto... still trying to figure out who did!

[Lane]

Think Erika won the veto... Howie just said "Not bad Erika, you can play golf"

Edit: It's been confirmed - Erika won.

[anii]

In his sexy blue/gray teeshirt. He is so cute!

He's have a very INF* philosophical conversation with Nakomis... about art, marriage, life, the universe... etc.

Very cool.

:)

[lavonne]

Kaysar mentions the site http://deviantart.com .....hmmmmm....maybe some of his and Michael's stuff is on there?

[quendiva26]

I'm loving this Nakomis and Kaysar talk. They are both so sweet and so cool. I love All Stars! :D

[lavonne]

What the.....Nakomis just told Kaysar that he wasn't even in her sites before the nomination....oh, yeah, right!

[quendiva26]

James, Howie, and Janie are all in the HOH room talking about how Kaysar lied to them. He made a deal with Chill Town that they wouldn't put him up when they get HOH, not the team, but HIM. They aren't angry with him, it's the game they say (an individual one) but they are concerned. James think Kaysar is messing up and even said, "I guess I don't know him that well." James said Kaysar lied to him because he told him that he was going to put up Nakomis and Boogie. Maybe Kaysar will come in and talk to him and smooth things over. Right now there seems to be a bit of trouble in Sov-ville though. :( They're trying to think of ways to use the Veto and backdoor Boogie instead.

[ke0na]

I'm getting kind of concerned about the Sov 6 alliance. James, Howie and Janelle are very upset with Kaysar right now. They're talking a lot of shit about him. They're going to try to talk Erika into using the veto so Kaysar will HAVE to put someone else up. If Erika takes one off, who do you think Kaysar will nominate?

[Ladyjinx]

Ecept that Kaysar did not really make any deals with chill town. He only talked to them suggested they go for floaters, even made the point of telling them he was not asking for them to keep "Him" safe. Janie and howie both knew this plan before Kaysar did it.
I"m pretty annoyed with how quick they are to turn on Kaysar, and their own stressing is stressing them out even more.
I'm also concenrned with how they seem to be trying to make it out to each other that they cant trust Kaysar.
( by making it seem as if he has lied to them when in fact he did not ).

[Steph]

I'm really hoping they all end up in the HOH room and just talk this all out with eachother. The lack of good food really is messing with their heads.

I hate seeing them turn around on eachother without knowing what's really going on and just assuming everything. Particularly Janelle and Howie..who agreed with Kaysar for the most part, all the way. And know very well there isn't a deal.

[flowerpower]

WTF...... KAYSAR NEVER MADE A DEAL W/ WILL & MIKE, JANIE & HOWIE KNOW THIS. NOW JANIE IS SAYING HE DID MADE A DEAL, SHE IS LYING & NOW THEY ARE BASHING ON KAYSAR. WHY? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

[quendiva26]

Since Kaysar said that he DID make a deal, it IS possible that we don't see EVERYTHING that is on the feeds! ;) Damned flames and people who sing and make them come up! lol

[Ladyjinx]

I saw the so-called deal on the feeds i also saw him talk to howie and janie about it before the "deal" .
The idea was to call dr. will and boogie up in front of the other houseguest , (which he did) and make the house suspect that will and boogie made a deal.
there was no deal , he just told them he was going for floaters, suggested they do the same if they get hoh.
They asked like who? He said ...i dont know , maybe like Chicken George?
He stressed that he was not asking for safety from them and that it was not an allaince.
And again Janelle and Howie where in on this whole thing. (they where not in the room, but they knew exactly what was going on.)

[ldystewart]

This is really making me mad right now. James and Janie are turning on Kaysar. they need to stop right now and get back to s6.

[quendiva26]

Okay, so what's the theory of why Janie and/or Howie haven't mentioned that to James then? Are they trying to turn James and Kaysar against each other?

Regardless, I still agree with James that if you aren't going to make the decisions as a team, then you shouldn't be able to fall back on the team. James may not have all the facts. I'm not sure. I was transporting a car 12 hours away and getting screwed over by Uhaul so I haven't been watching the feeds until late today. lol But from the information that he has, and honestly, if he is lacking info then he and I have the same amount, James is the smartest and best strategic player of the four right now. And he's annoyed with Kaysar. But he doesn't appear to be 'angry' or turning on him. I'm actually incredibly impressed with how James is handling the situation right now. And I'm enjoying watching it! :D I just want Kaysar to come and fix it and make things better. Come on Kaysar! :D

[Steph]

Janelle and James won't talk to Kaysar about anything and are now planning on going to Nakomis, telling her they didn't agree on any of this, and campaigning to save her.

Looks like there's not much of a SOV alliance anymore...Howie will go with Janelle regardless of what happens. James thinks he's totally in the right.

It's really kind of sad to watch..

[Ladyjinx]

I think James knows exactly what he is doing , he wants the people he has been working on to stay in the house.
(his little mini allainces). Also if he can get Janie and howie to doubt Kaysar then when the time comes to get rid of a sov...well kaysar will be toast.
I just cant beleive how easly led janie is being , she agrees with whoever she happens to be talking to at the time. if she is talking to kaysar she agrees with him and hates james if she is talking to james she agrees with him and bashes Kaysar.
I'm getting pretty annoyed myself ....i think it may be time for me to cut off the feeds and relax for a bit lol.
I think Janie has a little mini allaince with marci too, howie i think is just with janie and kaysar .

[Steph]

During BB6 I respected Janelle because she was really able to think for herself and to throw ideas out. Now I feel like she just agress with anyone in a failed attempt to ensure her safety.

It seems like James is purposely making sure Janelle doesn't talk with Kaysar. That Kaysar doesn't get the chance to properly explain himself. I kind of am hoping that J and J go to Nakomis and end up screwing themselves over. Argh.

I hope this all smooths out. Kaysar and Janelle both look completely down.

[Ladyjinx]

James and Janelle tell Nak that they want to save her, boogie kind of over hears, and ask Nak what they said then she crawls into the bed and tells boogie.

[Lane]

James and Janelle tell Nak that they want to save her, boogie kind of over hears, and ask Nak what they said then she crawls into the bed and tells boogie.

oh my goodness.......... there's gonna be some fireworks to come!

[quendiva26]

I don't think Howie will just automatically go with Janie. He and James have had their issues and he and Kaysar are just as good as he and Janie are. I am still hoping personally that Kaysar can fix this and the foursome will reallign! Call me the ultimate optimist if you will! :D

[Tickles]

Well that no doubt seals James' fate. And good thing, too. He deserves it for being so stupid. And envious of Kaysar. But it's all good for Kaysar, actually.

Buh bye James. :wave:

[quendiva26]

I don't think James is 'envious of Kaysar'. I think he's right on this one. But that's just my opinion! :D

[Tickles]

I don't think James is 'envious of Kaysar'. I think he's right on this one. But that's just my opinion! :D
I think that James wants to be seen as the master manipluator, as Kaysar is (for whatever reason). The really dumb part is, can't James see how having that reputation has hurt Kaysar. Why would he want that?

And if he's so right on this one ... why is it that Nakomis sold him out in less than 10 seconds flat? It clearly wasn't the right move to make. Kaysar said that Nakomis was dangerous, but James didn't agree, thought he knew better, and acted on it.

[Steph]

James running to Nakomis without properly thinking it out just made him CT's biggest target. Brilliant plan James.

And got Kaysar one more week in the house.

[Shelley]

I don't think James is 'envious of Kaysar'. I think he's right on this one. But that's just my opinion! :D

Regardless. James screwed up and Boogie called him a "snake". he has a big RED X on his back. Big shame that this had to happen.

[quendiva26]

Wait - I missed it somehow. What happened and how did I miss it? James went to Nakomis and then she went to who? Spill it please! :D

[Ladyjinx]

Mike boogie saw james and janelle talking to Nakomis, immediatly after she talked to them boogie asked her what they said , then she crawled into the bed by him and told him what james had said.

[Shelley]

Mike boogie saw james and janelle talking to Nakomis, immediatly after she talked to them boogie asked her what they said , then she crawled into the bed by him and told him what james had said.

But the best part is that James stated that they(James and Janelle) are not happy with Kaysar's nominations and that they want to take Will and Boogie out and they will save Nakomis. Nakomis then told Boogie all that. So now Boogie thinks James is coming after them. Called him a snake. It's a total shame because the Season 6 ppl need the numbers and to have all this happen is not good.

[flowerpower]

I CAN'T BELIEVE JANIE IS THIS STUPID, TRUSTING JAMES OVER KAYSAR. NAKOMIS WENT TO TELL BOGGIE WHAT JAMES SAID & I THINK NEXT WEEK IF NO SOV PEOPLE WIN, THEY WILL TARGET JAMES.

[quendiva26]

Janie MAY be playing James.

I don't believe them anyway. I still think they'll go after Janie first.

But if Kaysar and Howie are the two Sovs left in the game then I will be happy! :D (Sorry Jamie).

[KarenG]

Are you sure that the former SOV6 group aren't playing the rest of the house into thinking they aren't really together?

In this video, Kaysar is talking about not letting either of the other alliances know that they are together and that James is as strong as he is. Sounds like they are trying to turn the other groups on each other and not see the SOV4 as a threat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Z4pu9UGQ0&mode=related&search=BB7%20kaysar%20howie%20janelle


I don't know though...this video is a few days old. Maybe lots has happened since then?

[Tickles]

They have been doing that -- unsuccessfully. But this was just because James can't stop second guessing everything Kaysar does. James has made several bad moves today. But, it will not break the four of them up. They're rock solid, because they know they need each other, no matter how angry or irritated they might get with one another. That's a big step forward!

[quendiva26]

I think James 'paranoia' or 'concern' may be caused by Kaysar's not including him in everything like he does the other two Sovs. Kaysar is afraid James will tell Danielle and that Dani will tell someone else. He can trust Howie and Janelle not to tell anyone anything. He doesn't trust James the same way. And I know that this has transpired because of private conversations I've seen among the three of them in the HOH room where Kaysar specifically tells them to leave James out of it. He has also said the same thing privately to Janie and has gotten annoyed with her for saying as much to James as she has. I think James was planning earlier to get Nakomis out no matter what the other Sovs wanted. No more drama among the three of them, but we'll have to wait to see what James does unfortunately. :( I don't agree with every move Kaysar made either, but James needs to trust him to make decisions for the team anyway. James may not agree with him either, but he knows that Kaysar is a very intelligent man and SHOULD know that he would never screw over the Sovs unless he absolutely HAD to do so, like all four of the Sovs would do. Somebody get this boy some food please so he can remember that Kaysar is his FRIEND and act in accordance! :D

[anii]

Kaysar mentions the site http://deviantart.com .....hmmmmm....maybe some of his and Michael's stuff is on there?

I love that site... very unique images.

[anii]

They have been doing that -- unsuccessfully. But this was just because James can't stop second guessing everything Kaysar does. James has made several bad moves today. But, it will not break the four of them up. They're rock solid, because they know they need each other, no matter how angry or irritated they might get with one another. That's a big step forward!

Well, that's because poor James is wasting away on the gruel diet. Haven't you heard, he is losing muscle mass at an alarming rate and is rapidly atrophying after just 1 day on gruel.

I never thought I'd hear myself say this, but James is a bigger whiner than Marcellas! (at least Marcellas is funny when he whines... did you hear his rant about how he'd give up the money for a pb&j and suck it down like he's nursing at his mother's breast for the first time? I spit out my drink it was so f'ing funny!)