Poor Game Tactics This Season, So Far...

[GuruChaz]

For the record, I like Kaysar and the others from Season 6 and I don't direct this comment solely at them. I just use recent situations as an example that could worsen their chances in this game.

People are making big mistakes in this game. You have Howie running up to Kaysar after winning HoH when they should have been low key. You have Janelle wanting to keep Nakomis in the game because she likes her. You have Kaysar keeping Will and Boogie in the game because deep down that's what he feels the fans want for the TV show.

Personally, I think they are goofing up. James seems to be the only one who can see this. This game is going to have to be played cut throat style because the moment you keep someone in just because you like them or whatever, they will have you on the block the next week. This isn't a "getting to know you" season. Most of these people already know each other. It's a "get the strong players out ASAP and win the money" season.

If Will or Boogie get HoH next, do you really think they will keep any deals? They will put both Kaysar and Janelle up for eviction and then throw a party after the nomination ceremony.

I don't know what is going through some of these people's heads but it is possible to overthink situations and I don't think Big Brother can be played like chess. That is the biggest mistake of all. Things change way too fast.

[zuhra]

Absolutly true GuruChaz, they have to play the game, will let see maybe Kaysar has a plan cuz u never know;)

[BB7_just_like_apple_pie]

Absolutly true GuruChaz, they have to play the game, will let see maybe Kaysar has a plan cuz u never know;)

I hope that Kaysar has a plan I am getting very nervous, I think he should have put up Dr. will and/or Boogie even they think he made a mistake by not putting them up I don't trust the two of them worth a damn and I am afraid they are going to be a bigger threat then naki and diane. I think putting up one of the chilltown @@@holes and Diane would have been a smart move!!!!

[Shelley]

I hope that Kaysar has a plan I am getting very nervous, I think he should have put up Dr. will and/or Boogie even they think he made a mistake by not putting them up I don't trust the two of them worth a damn and I am afraid they are going to be a bigger threat then naki and diane. I think putting up one of the chilltown @@@holes and Diane would have been a smart move!!!!

And that would put a big target on Kaysar's back.

[BB7_just_like_apple_pie]

And that would put a big target on Kaysar's back.

I don't have live feeds but after posting here I went and read the live feed posts and I think your right, it seems that chilltown might have more numbers then I thought at first and since I couldn't get on this weekend because I was out of town there was alot of catching up to do ugggg I feel bad for Kaysar this is tough and has to be calculated just right I am curious though what is going on with Kaysar, Janie, and James...is she really believing James over Kaysar????? If thats true shes going to find her self up for eviction alot sooner!!!!

[GuruChaz]

Even with James' HoH, putting up George against Will is not a move with backbone. If he had kept his cool and stopped pre-judging people and trying to put someone out for a stupid reason like snoring and actually made an effort to be nice to George, he could have had his vote support. Howie and George have been pals and this was the time to test George and see how he would vote and possibly mark him for alignment, not dissention.

You need to get the heavy hitters out fast. I think the funniest thing I ever heard came out of James' mouth. He said, "If Will throws a food competition, I will make sure he gets into sequester." haha! duh! Well, I guess they will find out later that Will was playing them with his "I want to go home" strategy to put him on the backburner. He really is good.

Anyway, we as the public voted in 4 people from the same season which sort of made the game lopsided from the beginning. I guess we can't complain too much, but I still don't like James' attitude towards George or the way he handled HoH and especially his hissy fit after George won PoV. It wasn't a good image for him.

[zuhra]

Even with James' HoH, putting up George against Will is not a move with backbone. If he had kept his cool and stopped pre-judging people and trying to put someone out for a stupid reason like snoring and actually made an effort to be nice to George, he could have had his vote support. Howie and George have been pals and this was the time to test George and see how he would vote and possibly mark him for alignment, not dissention.

You need to get the heavy hitters out fast. I think the funniest thing I ever heard came out of James' mouth. He said, "If Will throws a food competition, I will make sure he gets into sequester." haha! duh! Well, I guess they will find out later that Will was playing them with his "I want to go home" strategy to put him on the backburner. He really is good.

Anyway, we as the public voted in 4 people from the same season which sort of made the game lopsided from the beginning. I guess we can't complain too much, but I still don't like James' attitude towards George or the way he handled HoH and especially his hissy fit after George won PoV. It wasn't a good image for him.

hmmm interesting thought
I don't see CG as a big target cuz he is harmless. anyway i dont know they better have some game plan...

[zuhra]

I hope hmmm interesting thought, I don't see CG as a big target cuz he is harmless. anyway i dont know they better have some game plan... I am getting very nervous, I think he should have put up Dr. will and/or Boogie even they think he made a mistake by not putting them up I don't trust the two of them worth a damn and I am afraid they are going to be a bigger threat then naki and diane. I think putting up one of the chilltown @@@holes and Diane would have been a smart move!!!!

I hope too

[GuruChaz]

This hasn't been a game because it's so one-sided. I don't understand why the public wanted to vote all 4 in anyway. It's like watching a football game and spotting one team 28 points before the game even starts. It's ridiculous.

It's time one of them went home and I would prefer that person to be James.

[Ladyjinx]

I would like to see the sovs retain power for at least 2 more weeks to even up the numbers some. From day one if they did not win hoh 2 of the sovs would be on the block and from private converstations in that house , i believe its still that way.
It really does not matter who goes home, everyone but the "4" (named by marci) who wins hoh will nom the "4".

[GuruChaz]

This does not make for an interesting game at all.

I say put all four S6 members in a money chamber and blow the $500,000 around and then end the show.

[Tickles]

To each his own .... but I'm loving it! :yay1:

[GuruChaz]

I think I'm wanting Kaysar, George, or Howie to win money at the end. I'm just not sure which order and what place. The rest can go suck lemons.:confused2

[geekchicklet]

I hope that Kaysar has a plan I am getting very nervous, I think he should have put up Dr. will and/or Boogie even they think he made a mistake by not putting them up I don't trust the two of them worth a damn and I am afraid they are going to be a bigger threat then naki and diane. I think putting up one of the chilltown @@@holes and Diane would have been a smart move!!!!

Honestly, I think that what confused James, Howie and Janey is that this was Kaysar's original plan. Specific floaters were to go before CT. Then, the plan was scrapped, sort of, but no one ever really had a clear discussion about it.

James has not been happy with any of the nominations/evictions, including his own...which isn't helping matters. In his defense, he wasn't included in on the initial plan, so I can't blame him.

At this point in the game, I think that team morale and communication are key. They are lacking both. Kaysar is down in the dumps. James is second guessing everything his team does. Janey's drinking has gotten her in a bit of trouble. I feel Howie's game has been strongest. I'm hoping he can rally the troops. :)

[kaper]

In the beginning, the guys (Howie, James, Jase, Kaysar that I remember) were saying that they didn't want AllStars to end up with a winner who road the coat tails of the hard core players. They mentioned a few people in past seasons who did nothing at all gamewise, (Cowboy and Lisa come to mind) So, at first I can understand their wanting to weed out the floaters, then playing the true All Stars, each one for his own, to the end.
The S6 group have all said that they know they are carrying the biggest target just because of the numbers. I think that is the reason each of them has a back-up ally incase the S6'ers get split up. Spread your safety ned as far as you can. The problem is this conflicts with the original plan of ousting the floaters. If Marci is Janelle's back up partner, then she won't vote him out as a floater. Ditto with James/Danielle, Howie/George and Kaysar/Erika. It makes for a difficult HOH nomination decision.
I am really sad to see Kaysar so seemingly sad, depressed, and disappointed with this season. Watching him on the feeds last night allmost made me cry. He doesn't have the enthusiasm, quick witted humor, or passion for the game. Howie tries to cheer him up, but it's not working. I think it is also difficult for Kaysar to watch Janie sleep all day, James separate himself from the group, and it just is so different. Jase made a good point that the S6 folks never got time to decompress from their season. It is like playing BB year round with the personal appearances, charity work, web blogs etc. I think they are looking tired, like they never left the house. S6 may have the strength of 4 HOH's in a row, but they are definitely at a disadvantage coming in together in a big group without ever getting a real break from last summer and BB life.

[GuruChaz]

I think everyone ran to their "parachute partner", who happens to be considered a floater in the game, and they are trying to protect everyone. The only one that doesn't have a backup "parachute partner" is Howie and that's why he is playing without a lot of hassle from everyone else. It's a mess. It's a messy season. :dontknow:

[GuruChaz]

It's amazing what all can happen in such a short period of time. You start to really see, not only how each individual plays the game, but their whole personality and set of values. I still believe the two are seperate though. You can still have a set core of values and play the game in various ways, but you should never have to talk bad about someone or backbite them behind their backs like some are doing.

I was really impressed with the conversation between Kaysar and George today in the storage room. It has been apparrent from the beginning that Kaysar made an effort to communicate with George on a sincere level, especially after that PoV contest.

On the opposite side of the coin, you have Marcellas who has sold out Janelle just like he did Amy on season 3. It's a repeat performance and you have to really wonder if he is someone that ANYONE could trust as a friend outside that house. I just don't get that vibe from Marcellas. He floats around from his "friend of the week" to another and leaves the previous one twisting in the wind. It's people like him who need to be put on the block and voted out of that house. Better yet, just voted out of your life.

[GuruChaz]

Obviously, when I said the game needed to be played cutthroat style in my first post, I didn't expect James to take that tactic with the S4 alliance...at least as early as he did. Diane got voted out. Big deal. All she did was lay around and whine about how poor she was and how sad she was. From what I understand, she shot herself in the foot before the game by saying something mean about Janelle on a messageboard. I fail to see how getting her out would cause James to jump ship on the alliance. Diane was a waste of airtime.

If she was doing the show for exposure to get another modelling job, I don't know that many companies looking for sadsack models.

[Nadirah]

I was really impressed with the conversation between Kaysar and George today in the storage room. It has been apparrent from the beginning that Kaysar made an effort to communicate with George on a sincere level, especially after that PoV contest.

Hi GuruChaz! The conversation in the storage room with George and Kaysar was one of the highlights of the entire season for me. They do share several common values, and it appears that they have recognized those in one another. No matter what happens re: votes, they do respect one another and that is something to be treasured.

Kaysar has also talked to Erika who knows Kaysar is an honest person with integrity, knows that Kaysar kept people from sending her home, yet she will likely vote against him anyway. At least Kaysar gave it a try and made it a clear choice behind which Erika can no longer hide...she will be exposed for her lack of strength and character.

Interesting battle going on...similar to BB6...between different values and characters...

[GuruChaz]

I don't feel Erika deserves to be there much longer. It wasn't cool to string Kaysar along and then turncoat to Danielle and tell her everything. It's terrible that Kaysar essentially got backdoored by Danielle. Both Danielle and Marcellas are playing ruthless. They are kicking everything personal to the curb...friendships, integrity, everything...just to win money. Yes, it's a game but you don't trash people early in a game who you really consider friends. The key word here is EARLY. I'm disgusted thinking about this. I'm disgusted with James, but I guess his style of play was expected. However, he is saying some really nasty stuff about his so-called "friends" that seems unneccessary to reach his goal. I hope he loses. Pay for college with your sequester money and like it.

I'm disgusted with CBS for the flaw in the HoH competition. As much as I want Erika out of the house, she did get caught up in the debacle and got screwed over. Maybe that is what she got for how she decided to play the game and play people she supposedly respected.

In conclusion, if I could change the title of this thread, I would remove a few words and put "Poor Season, So Far". My advice to everyone involved in this game is to just go do something great with your lives. Keep your websites up and just let us all know what is going on from time to time. Take care... :cheers:

[GuruChaz]

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[GuruChaz]

Monica posted a new entry at the CBS blog site. It's hilarious because she is so right!

Monica
8/21/06 12:40 pm

Hey Jack – thanks for the shout out!

Dana, I will definitely co-sign the Coup d'Crap... that is a good one! As a matter of fact, that would have been a better title for the season instead of "all-stars". "Big Brother 7: Coup d'Crap."

[GO1984]

I liken this years BB7 to college and some Pro-sporting events, like my personal favorite-Professional Skating; we have the home viewers, crowd or audience and friends and family supporting their favorites; we have the network and producers occasionally acting as judges or referees and Julie Chen is the announcer, giving us a play-by-play. I agree with most, this year the game-play tactics have reached a real low, but not a new low. We have witnessed this in Professional Skating with the Kerrigan/Harding showdown. While some spectators are shocked and disgusted by such poor sportsmanship, others are captivated or excited by it. It's like witnessing a car or train wreck...you want to look away, but you don't. You are hoping by some miracle that you can wish it to not happen.. Some of us are wishing, that by some miracle, Janie and even Erica are really not being fooled, and will surprise some by ousting Chilltown. This could happen, probability is against it, but miracles happen every day.

Fortunately, if there is no miracle...we have seen what happens with the Hardings and Kerrigans of this world. Chilltown may think they have life by the .....what they'll find, is their lives going down the drain. I for one, think that is perfect justice and reward.

[GuruChaz]

It's sad when the lame people seem to win these games. Next year, I'm going to pick the biggest douchebag who hasn't been kicked out by the third week to win the whole thing. I might even run a bet in Vegas. sigh

[Beverly]

LOL!!!

[BBFAN4LIFE]

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[pokerking]

For me kaysar fail to put danielle on the block. Because she is the best player and kaysar is afraid to get evicted out. And he was evicted by what he thought as his alliance.

Kaysar strategy is not that good. He can't see this game as cut throat. S6 should have kicked out danielle instaed of nakomis. Then marci will be with season 6 alliance.

I still think danielle was best player. her moves were the best but her fight with janelle is the reason she got evicted. She ran out of alliance when erika deserted her. Who ever kick out kaysar will not last long. Simple as that.

[KaysarsLisa]

Now that the game is over I will state what I feel were the poorest tactics:

1. No one evicted Will within the first 4 weeks.

2. No one evicted Danielle within the first 4 weeks.

3. No one evicted Erika within the first 4 weeks.

4. No one evicted George with in the first 4 weeks.

[GuruChaz]

In the end, all I have to say is:

Congratulations Janelle on winning the $25,000! I voted for George because he needs a new car but I'm glad you got it.

As for Kaysar and Howie, thank you for doing this another season when asked. I appreciated you both being in the house and in our homes again.

As for James, I'm a bit disappointed in some of the things you said about your "friends" during the coarse of the game and I let you have it on some of the messageboards. I had written you and told you all about George before he went into the game and asked for S6 to keep an eye on him. In addition to your "friends", you didn't treat him very nice either. Your actions this season probably hurt yourself the most because you have some friendships to fix...if they are important to you. Having ADHD, I know what it's like to say things you want to take back later but there comes a point where you realize the mistake and stop making it. You just went on and on. As disappointed as I am for the actions listed above, I do not dislike you and do wish you well. I hope you can get into law school so you can hang your friends out to dry. I'm just kidding. Sarcasm, right?

Congrats to you all and don't listen to Will about the fans. We all have lives and most of us work, but we also get to know you on some level as you are displayed on our computer screens in our homes. Yes, it's a one-sided situation but people are basically good and mean well when they greet you or talk to you. They don't want anymore back from you than you are able to give. Just remember that.

Take care... :thumbsup: